Im sick of all this Morales, MAB, and Pac #4# stuff

[Mech.]

This is for you and my boy "mechaaztlan". You guys are talking about #4# lifetime. That is different. I love Erik and he is one of my favorites and I picked him to win by KO and I picked him over MAB. You cant take anything away from him but you cant take anything away from the other fighters I named on the list either. Erik has only lost to MAB but he was just dominated by Pac right before that and the other guys on the list have also beaten top talent and deserve a shot instead of the same guys. If we keep going like this then the list will never change

"editkay i think your saying give other good looking up and comers a chance,but those dudes gotta come up and snatch it from these guys,not the other way around."

[DLT]

What guys tho? WINKY?! Comeon, you thought Eastman was a joke but your saying winky ranks high?Whats the diffrence between Eastman and Winky, i mean really, Shane? Give Eastman a smaller dude then, and take back that Hop fight, and you have another Winkman.And about those guys fighting each other round and round, first off, its what the fans want, secondly, these dudes earned their spots and theyre trying to assert dominance, wouldnt you want one guy that you could look too out of those guys and say, "yeah definelty him,he's been woopin the most ass", or do you want for them to not fight top guys?

editkay i think your saying give other good looking up and comers a chance,but those dudes gotta come up and snatch it from these guys,not the other way around.

Read my post right under the one you did. But for this I will say to you that if you are going to keep saying this, then you cant have Bernard #1 because his only 2 real wins were against smaller men and one who was much smaller and had no business being there

[DLT]

"editkay i think your saying give other good looking up and comers a chance,but those dudes gotta come up and snatch it from these guys,not the other way around."

How can they come take it when Morales, Pac, MAB, and probally now Marquez has a cycling going on. Watch one of them fight Marquez next and it goes in a cycle again where they will beat one and lose to the other

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

This is for you and my boy "mechaaztlan". You guys are talking about #4# lifetime. That is different. I love Erik and he is one of my favorites and I picked him to win by KO and I picked him over MAB. You cant take anything away from him but you cant take anything away from the other fighters I named on the list either. Erik has only lost to MAB but he was just dominated by Pac right before that and the other guys on the list have also beaten top talent and deserve a shot instead of the same guys. If we keep going like this then the list will never change

The list should change when it is right for it to change though not just so that a fighter who has consistantly beat high ranked fighters isnt always on top even though he deserves it like Morales.

I'll tackle the most obvious from ur list

Tszyu beat a ultra scared Sharmba mitchell and before that was on a huge break in where he should have been stripped of all of his belts. And his fight before that was against old ass jesse jaimes leija.

Wright- Besides a very overweight Mosely who has he beaten in the last 5 years... no one thats who no top ranked fighters, nothing from his corner of the world.

Corrales -last real impressive victory was against Casamayor and it was razor thin. His last fight he was getting outboxed before his opponent simply ran out of gas. Besides those 2 names the past 4 years are wins over nobodies and an embarassing beating by Mayweather Jr.

Rafael Marquez - Gifted puncher, his opposition has been good but they havent been up the level of Morales.

Zab Judah - I love the guy and im dying to see what he is gonna do next, While his victory over spinks was impressive who was spinks? His most notable victory was over Judah himself and an ultra skill limited ricardo Mayorga. Wasnt really undisputed either. Judah also hadnt really fought anyone except corley whos lost to basically everybody.

Morales easily should be ranked above all of the above.

Well im off to bed, goodnight.

[BrooklynBomber]

Its a first time that I agree with DLT. Both Eric and Manny had one loss in their last tho fights. Top 3 pound for pound did not change. Bernard is p4p king because he beat everybody that came his way for the last 11 years. And as being champ and defending title he beat the best opposition possible. One win wont put you in #1 P4P slot. Does not matter how good this win is.

[MetalVomit]

and I love all 3 of those guys and my favorite out the bunch is Morales but he shouldnt be that high on the list.

I can understand Marco being high up on the list because he came back from that devestating KO and beat the **** out of Paulie Ayala and Erik Morales. He didnt win those fights, he dominated.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Finally this rock,paper,scissor story is over. Erik is Marco's *****, Marco is Pacquiao's *****, and Pacquiao is Erik's *****.

Where does that put J.M.Marquez?

[chingon28]

some of the people need to understand that yeah erik,manny or mab have loses. but thats because they keep fighting the best. erik has lost to only mab. but he has always fought and beat the best.

[sane0t0]

I can understand Marco being high up on the list because he came back from that devestating KO and beat the **** out of Paulie Ayala and Erik Morales. He didnt win those fights, he dominated.

MAB did NOT dominate Morales, I saw MAB winning it, but in no way can you call that fight dominating. It's like saying Morales dominated against Pacquiao last night. Pac fought well, I saw Morales winning a close one, but I wouldn't have been surprised with a draw. No one was dominated in either fight. Both fights were close and featured ring warriors. IMO, Pac deserves to stay in the P4P ranks. Regardless, Manny showed great heart, a damn strong chin (he's taken the best from MAB, JMM and Morales, and where was he... still standing!) and was sportsmanlike in defeat. "Anytime, anywhere"

Hats off to Morales, great, intelligent boxing last night.

[DLT]

I thought I would put this up again since Im still seeing all these sad list with Morales 1,2,or 3. And I see MAB high on these list even though he was just dominated and KO 2 fights ago. So so sad