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Percentage of fighters who test positive who claim to be “innocent”.

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    #21
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

    Was a shame that really because we would’ve got Toney vs Valuev next. Would’ve been the weirdest stylistic matchup ever.
    Announcer say " hard right to valuevs knee! The giant Russian has began to look for his opponent."

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      #22
      Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post
      Has there ever been a case that's been legitimately overturned? Can they even prove it?

      Either way depending on how big and famous the fighter is it'll get overlooked.
      Good question would you consider making a threat out of it? Would really like to know the answer to that.

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        #23
        All liars lol. Not one person failed a test that wasn't full of ****. The real issue is there is no reason not to cheat since there is no real punishment. How Baumgardner was exonerated was the most perplexing, the WBC said they couldn't prove she intentionally took the banned substances and the commission followed suit.
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          #24
          Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post
          Has there ever been a case that's been legitimately overturned? Can they even prove it?

          Either way depending on how big and famous the fighter is it'll get overlooked.
          Not boxing, but I recall years ago there was one young and up coming female athlete got hit for having some kind of hormones that were only created by males and was banned for like 4 years or so? She was in the top 50 or so but not exactly a superstar in the making or anything, and people assumed she was actually using it but then she started an official process against the system claiming that it was a false positive/mistaken results and demanding a retest and so on. Then to the surprise of everyone, I think about a year later the ban was overturned and the record was cleared because I guess when the organization actually accepted her official complaint and all and tested the samples again using various methods none of them came out positive, so it was considered a legit false positive so to speak. Rumors say that the initial testing company or whatever either mistook someone else's sample or some other rookie idiotic mistake but either way, it was the first case that I had personally followed at the time where it came out as an actual overturn.

          Now, I believe majority of those who get caught are indeed guilty, and there are probably way more that is not getting caught who's using them. But playing devil's advocate, the testing agencies actually have made mistakes (other than intended ones due to corruption) while testing.

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            #25
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            Announcer say " hard right to valuevs knee! The giant Russian has began to look for his opponent."
            Do you think Toney could actually reach his head?
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