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Originally posted by Boxing2695 View PostI always said haney isnt gonna be the next floyd like some people tried to say. Hes more like Zab and nothing wrong with that because Zab was a multi time champion and a really good fighter but he could be hurt and beat in fights by guys you wouldn't think would beat him going into it.
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Originally posted by Ropeydope View Post
Loma is a 126 lb fighter who couldn’t find competition at 130 so moved passed his ideal weight to 135. In the ring it was 140 lbs vs 170 lbs and I still had him winning as did many observers. Let’s keep it real. Loma is special. Haney is a weight bully that just got his comeuppance.
Cool if you just want the challenge, but hard to win and keep belts that way. It's hard enough to win and keep belts in a single weight class, and most fighters never do.
Other fighters start out young, a few classes below where they end up after they grow into themselves. Loma started pros late, so he was mostly at his top weight already. It's a big gamble to then start moving up withoutactually growing.1Eriugenus likes this.
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I can't believe the pro-Ryan sentiments on here! This reminded me of Castillo v Corrales II as a flat-out cheat. If you've got 2 guys who are very big & tight at the weight & one tries to be professional, starves & boils himself to make weight & the other doesn't even try, obviously the latter has given himself a huge edge. I think Garcia is a cheating tripehound & has achieved nothing of value. I'm sure that if Haney had known it would be a non-title bout held at 144ilb he would've trained accordingly & won!
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Originally posted by DClefthook View Post
I don't know about that sir. Canelo got embarrassed by Mayweather when he was 23 and then embarrassed ten years later by Bivol who employed the same tactics as Mayweather which was just a complete boxing clinic. Pacquiao is one of my favorite fighters but let's face it he was knocked out twice in his career during his younger and prime years. 3G was one of the most overhyped fighters of our era thanks to HBO who seemed like the last 5 years of his career was just begging Canelo. The 2 Russians on your list are solid but Mr PPVweather has to go down as numero uno!
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'All boxers have weaknesses. In the last 0-15 years I can name very few that were solid. In no particular order That would be Canelo, GGG, Loma, Bivol, Beterbiev, Pacquiao, Mayweather.'
There are no boxers without weaknesses & never have been. SRR, SRL & Roberto probably come closest in that they could box defensively or offensively, inside or outside, had scary power, had great chins & stamina but they had weaknesses if you analysed closely enough. They must do, they are human! In the modern era I think most solid are Mayweather. Weakness, not great power but could always do enough. Lomachenko. Weakness, not physically strong against bigger men but usually out-thought them. Pacquaio. Weakness, could get wild & off-balance but usually moving too fast for opponent to take advantage. Crawford. Weakness, can start slowly & overly methodical but he knows its a 12 round fight & he gets it done. Canelo. Weakness, vulnerable to constant jab & movement but has evolved counter-punching skills to usually counter that.
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