Comments Thread For: 'You Really Thought I Was Crazy?' Ryan Garcia Laughs Last

[Boxing2695]

Bro, Zab had power

Zab was a harder puncher definitely but I'm talking about in terms of the vulnerability and being outfought.

[Boxing2695]

Um... I remember Judah as a little more of a ****er than Haney. I'm not a Haney fan but thought he showed some good pressure in his last couple fights before this. Maybe I'm nostalgic, or it was just too long ago, but don't see him as Judah.

Yeah Zab was a bigger puncher especially at 140lbs. But I'm talking in terms of the vulnerability because Zab could be caught and hurt in fights even if he was the better boxer in there. It's what we saw between Haney and Garcia. Haney was the better boxer in there without question but he just couldn't take the left hand from Ryan when he landed it through out the fight

[Regge]

Yeah Zab was a bigger puncher especially at 140lbs. But I'm talking in terms of the vulnerability because Zab could be caught and hurt in fights even if he was the better boxer in there. It's what we saw between Haney and Garcia. Haney was the better boxer in there without question but he just couldn't take the left hand from Ryan when he landed it through out the fight

This better "boxer" bs narrative has to stop boxing isn't just hit run and hold for dear life a great boxer needs more power, heart, speed, will etc Ryan is the better boxer and fighter and he proved it.

[Corelone]

So I picked another loser, you live and you learn. Ryan had everybody fooled. He signed for 140 and knew he couldn't make it. If they didn't think he could make 140, why sign it? He fooled them.

[JonDP]

Disagree…Kambosos beat a previously undefeated Teofimo and Haney handled him with ease TWICE. He also had a close fight with Lomachenko which I thought he WON. However, after Linares wobbled him badly during their fight, I always thought he’d lose to a top puncher like Tank/Ryan but doubted Ryan not because of his talent but his lack of discipline and erratic behaviour. Glad he proved me wrong.

Lomachenko had him beat and had himself to blame for taking his foot off the gas in the 12th, and of course, they gave it to Haney. That’s what’s baffling to me, Haney gets ALL the benefits of doubts for some reason. Glad he was exposed and took a serious beating last night to not leave any more room for these inexplicable favors.

[JonDP]

Well Loma could not beat him and Loma is supposed to be one of the best. The problem with Haney is he has no chin and I think Garcia got to him mentally. Ryan is not the one who is crazy, he just did it to mess with Haney and it worked.

Oh loma beat him. However he got overconfident and took the 12th off which, of course, is immediately going to be a Haney round. Basically any round in which Haney doesn’t get ****** around too much, he the judges award him. He was like the godson of boxing or something. I’m glad there was no room for that Saturday night.

[Boxing2695]

This better "boxer" bs narrative has to stop boxing isn't just hit run and hold for dear life a great boxer needs more power, heart, speed, will etc Ryan is the better boxer and fighter and he proved it.

Speed and power that's more athleticism more than technical boxing ability which Haney is better at. Haney had better fundamentals which made him the better boxer but not the better fighter. I'm taking away nothing from Garcia he did great and deserved the win but just saying it how I see it and if you don't agree that's cool

[BustedKnuckles]

Speed and power that's more athleticism more than technical boxing ability which Haney is better at. Haney had better fundamentals which made him the better boxer but not the better fighter. I'm taking away nothing from Garcia he did great and deserved the win but just saying it how I see it and if you don't agree that's cool

This makes sense, and it's a good balance of both views. Being able to move in and out is technical ability, but too much evasiveness becomes running, and isn't much different than Curly from the 3 stooges running around the ring.

It must be tough being exclusively a 12-round decision boxer, especially with so many bad decisions. If you're not gifted with power, you can only improve it so much, and you have to go 12 full rounds each time without being able to end it early and decisively.

[Mr.Boxing fan]

Everyone involved in this "fight" belongs in the WWE: promoter, judges, ref, and the 2 "boxers". After wasting time watching this event, the conclusion I come to is that Haney is over-rated, and has a glass jaw. What was his plan? Why didnt he pound the heck out of Quee-Ry's stomach, and back when the other clown turn his back on him? And the other clown turns his back and puts his head down when his opponent is trying to hit him? There were more clinches and headlocks than the 2 of them combined to throw punches,what did they combine to throw 450, over 12 rounds. That means they both averaged 15-20 punches per round. Hardly the stuff of legend. The judges (the entire night) didnt have a clue either, or were they bought? Where did they find that "referee", doesnt he know the rules of boxing? And lastly, the promoter is phony as ****, as his usual self is. Had the judges not help him, his top 2 boxers of the night, lose- (which I feel they did) GBP would almost disintegrate. Did you see Bernard Hopkins whispering into "Quee-ry's" ears , after the bout, while being interviewed? What, he can't answer on his own? This was a WWE event disguised as a Boxing match, are we sure that McMahon wasnt in on the promotion. Neither "boxer" deserved to win, they both should be embarassed by this play, how can either one be happy about this ****? They both cashed in though. What a waste of a Saturday evening!!!

[Boxing2695]

This makes sense, and it's a good balance of both views. Being able to move in and out is technical ability, but too much evasiveness becomes running, and isn't much different than Curly from the 3 stooges running around the ring.

It must be tough being exclusively a 12-round decision boxer, especially with so many bad decisions. If you're not gifted with power, you can only improve it so much, and you have to go 12 full rounds each time without being able to end it early and decisively.

Yeah there is guys who are to negative with it and don't engage and it becomes more like running. But Haney tbh hasn't really done that often like people say he does because most of time he's quicker and better than his opponent on the outside so he can be in the center of the ring more and outwork his opponents with the jab and slip punches.

But he ran into Garcia who because of his athletism hes quicker in the exchanges on the outside so he's able to land big power punches and because he has power he could hurt Haney. Tank Davis did right thing against Garcia because when Ryan would let his hands go he'd get on his bike and get away from the punches and walk Ryan on to punches. That's what Haney should of done but he opted to be the aggressor