Benavidez Going To 175 To Duck Morrell. Insane.

[QueensburyRules]

I think 4Truth is correct.

I get the TS logic but I don’t think it’s a Morrell duck. Benavidez needs to be fighting top tier guys and champions.

- - Hence Bena going to 175 where the top champs are.

[garfios]

Gvozdyk is an excellent fight, Morrell would be a good fight as well. Of the two fighters, one is much more proven than the other. Beating Gvovdyk would mean a great deal more than defeating an unproven prospect.

Bs, this is the same path canelo has navigated, unproven my @$$, and the guy he's fighting is 37 yo past his prime and don't give me that name bs. There's no better fight than two undefeated hungry fighters at the top of their game.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I think Morrell is legit, but this take is ******. Gvodzyk is a much more established name, and likely gives Benavidez a shot at the belts at 175 if he wins. Canelo isn't giving Benavidez a shot no matter what from what it seems, and the WBA hasn't ordered Morrell's shot in 3 years and there's no sign it's coming any time soon, and he doesn't really gain much.

That being said, they did claim they were signed to fight Morrell before the Andrade fight, and then said they'd fight him if they couldn't get Canelo. But the fact is that the Gvodzyk fight is a better opportunity against a more established name that leads to a way better fight, against the winner of Beterbiev v Bivol. And anyone that thinks Morrell is a better name than those guys is on the good stuff. Not to mention, if he can beat Gvodzyk followed by the winner of the 175 undisputed fight, he does what Canelo couldn't and makes him look like even more of a giant chump and likely enters and passes him in the P4P rankings to boot. And he's probably doing so on the Saudi dime and platform.

By any stretch, this is the path to take if Benavidez really is confident that he can beat anyone around 168/175. He's betting on himself. Can't fault that.

[garfios]

How can Benavidez duck Morell when Morell turned down the fight?

Benavidez is moving up because he can't waste his prime trying to get Canelo to grow some balls.

Morell jr never turned down the, benavidez people did, google it and you will read what really happened.

[garfios]

Sampson is labelled as David's promoter. If Sampson is also his manager.......oh boy lol

It shouldn't matter to Benavidez what Canelo is getting paid, if he happily accepted his own purse. The two pertinent details that should matter to Benavidez: his name wasn't on the original agreement, and Sampson doesn't want him to go to DAZN. That's where loyalty comes into play....will Benavidez make the necessary sacrifices to get Canelo, or will he allow his team to steer him down a path that's more beneficial to them? Does the team work for the boxer, or does the boxer work for his team?

This situation is reminiscent of Wilder/Joshua. PBC/DAZN, Finkle instead of Sampson. How did that situation end? The fight was over-marinated and got sent to hell. Wilder was steered down another path that led him to cherry-picking Fury...and we know what happens next. There are two major differences: PBC no longer has SHO as leverage, and Canelo has more power in the U.S. than Joshua. Wilder tried to A-Side Joshua, but Benavidez won't be able to pull that maneuver on Canelo.

Back to Benavidez/Morrell: I don't think that fight will happen until they move to LHW.

Don't put canelo's duck on benavidez shoulders. The fight wasn't made because ginger lost his balls, plain and simple. He's not steering benavidez to DAZN nor any other outfit, he however moved out of the benavidez way. Stop with forensic analysis, what you're doing is excusing ginger the fraud for his blatant duck, benavidez already sacrificed his purse, 5m flat.

[garfios]

Still don't get how Benavidez is ducking Morrell. A lot of times the excuse is "he hasn't fought anyone", but hot damn, Morrell literally never fought anyone. This kid has 10 fights. His best opponent was probably ranked... #30? #40? at the time of the fight (no, I'm not looking at WBA rankings, theyre trash). Can Morrell actually fight a halfway decent fighter before people label him as a monster?

Gvozdyk is a former world champion whose only loss is against Beterbiev, who's a top P4P fighter himself. Gvozdyk is ranked in the Top5 at LHW. Considering Benavidez would be moving up for that fight, Nail is 3 times more challenging fight than Morrell.

You're not looking at the WBA rankings because they're trash, so you're looking at wbc or wbo? The guy is in the same position benavidez is, a worthless belt an a mandatory that will never, if they don't start fighting each other the path will never be cleared. Stop with bs that who has his fought, there's nobody close to him in regard to the opponents he has face in his first 10 fights. Go look, so you prefer a past his prime fighter instead of a hungry young fighter with a great pedigree, why not bring back andrade and do a rematch.

[garfios]

I think 4Truth is correct.

I get the TS logic but I don’t think it’s a Morrell duck. Benavidez needs to be fighting top tier guys and champions.

Like canelo? Or no, andrade is better, wait this guy he's going to fight is just a little older than andrade.

[_Jordan_]

Is not only Benavides, I feel bad for Morrell Jr, no one, no one want to fight him, he put the # 2 WBA ranked in Coma and beat the # 1 WBA ranked easily, he KO opponents in a destructive way, take no punishment, his fights look like if he is abusing his rivals, not competitive at all, right now he is a victim of his own success and with the PBC and Dazn rivalry to find opponents is super hard, Andrade's trainer said they won't fight Morrell, he said Morrell is a Young Killer, Berlanga also said no when they asked last week about a possible fight between WBA Top fighters, he said he is onto "bigger stuff" , Benavides prefer 37 years old beaten opponent knowing he won't get the winner of Bivol & Beterbiev cuz of the Promotion Issues between PBC and Dazn and Munguia is Golden Boy-Dazn, is out of reach for Morrell, Plant want to fight an easy fight(and I don't blame him) he wanted alcoholic and mental Charlo or Berlanga, he want no part of Morrell, Mbilli said last week he doesn't want to remain in WBA Ranks, I suspect is cuz would lead to Morrell Jr... Dazynian, Diego Pacheco and Sishin maybe but if Casuals don't know Lennox Allen and Aidos Yerbossynuly they may not know those 3 either, boxing is a joke this days, everybody is undefeated at SMW cuz they don't take risks, awful, is gonna take Morrell 2 years to force a decent opponent to fight him and I m counting with the WBA taking Canelo's belt for that, unless Morrell get the super Belt he will find no decent opponents

[j0zef]

You're not looking at the WBA rankings because they're trash, so you're looking at wbc or wbo? The guy is in the same position benavidez is, a worthless belt an a mandatory that will never, if they don't start fighting each other the path will never be cleared. Stop with bs that who has his fought, there's nobody close to him in regard to the opponents he has face in his first 10 fights. Go look, so you prefer a past his prime fighter instead of a hungry young fighter with a great pedigree, why not bring back andrade and do a rematch.

I look at overall rankings such as TBRB, as everyone should. Individual org rankings are crap, and everyone knows it. You'll find some 100 ranked fighter in top 10.

This kid nowhere near Benavidez. David is 2 time world champion who has beaten world champions. He beat a world champ in 2019, 5 years ago. For laughs sake, when Benavidez beat Durrell, Morrell hasn't even boxed professionally yet. You might as well say that Berlanga and Canelo are the same. This is so laughable I'm not even sure what else to say about it.

Gvozdyk is a much tougher opponent than Morrell. If you can't see that, you're buying into Reynosos excuse machine for why they're ducking Benavidez.

[garfios]

I look at overall rankings such as TBRB, as everyone should. Individual org rankings are crap, and everyone knows it. You'll find some 100 ranked fighter in top 10.

This kid nowhere near Benavidez. David is 2 time world champion who has beaten world champions. He beat a world champ in 2019, 5 years ago. For laughs sake, when Benavidez beat Durrell, Morrell hasn't even boxed professionally yet. You might as well say that Berlanga and Canelo are the same. This is so laughable I'm not even sure what else to say about it.

Gvozdyk is a much tougher opponent than Morrell. If you can't see that, you're buying into Reynosos excuse machine for why they're ducking Benavidez.

If he's not near benavidez, ask him why he choose andrade over Morrell Jr? After agreeing to fight him. We all know that the best fights to make at 168 is benavidez vs canelo or Morell jr vs benavidez, they're both mandatories and regular belt holder, per the alphabet soups organizations rules they should have fought canelo already. The ginger doesn't want to risk a beating and benavidez is moving up to fight another old man. The tougher fight is Morell jr. You didn't find anyone with the same resume in only 10 fights, did you?