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Uysk wouldn’t be a Heavyweight champion in the 90’s

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    #31
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


    The Chisora fight is so overblown.
    Usyk had all sorts going on in the lead up with injuries, they fought in a ridiculous small ring that benefitted Chisora with that said he won a mere 3 rounds and was outboxed and beaten all around the ring and was out on his feet multiple times, stumbling around like a drunk & on the verge of being stopped.

    It wasn't Usyks best performance but way too much stock has been put into this fight.

    Bellew did as good if not better, Mchunu had decent success, Briedis did better than virtually all of them combined yet nobody is talking about these fights, analysing them or using them as a blueprint, why?
    Usyk fought all wrong against Chisora and learned real quick that he had to get bigger so he could be more physical with the heavyweights. He came in against Chisora thinking ( i suspect) that he could use long lines, an ambush strategy (like haye) and pick and choose his spots. The fights you mention and others show that Usyk depends on engaging, getting physical. The question remains if he could do this against a heavyweight like Tyson, Lewis, McCall even. Either he could and it might look like his heavyweight fights post Chisora, or, he would be forced to rely on his other skill sets and pick and choose his spots. He could not go back to being an ambush fighter, like he tried against Chisora. Haye and Wilder do this well because of their style. Both men have a big punch that Usyk does not.

    I don't think Uysk has the physical size... it is not about only weight... to fight successfully the way he can in this weak division.

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      #32
      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

      Wasn't a problem when he was fighting at Cruiser though. Those guys were his size.
      Good point. Gassiev was a wrecking ball at CW and a prolific body puncher, but he didn't bother Usyk at all.

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        #33
        Originally posted by PerfectJab View Post

        Mike Tyson would be a nightmare for Usyk in every single way.
        Usyk would be on the back foot for as long as the fight would last
        One of those signature Tyson hooks to the body and Usyk would go all Golota vs Tyson "Get me the **** out of here!"
        Mike Tyson in his prime would be a nightmare for any HW in history - for 5/6 rounds. If Usyk got up on his toes and moved like he did against Gassiev for the first half of the fight, he would definitely have a chance of against Mike.

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          #34
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post

          Mike Tyson in his prime would be a nightmare for any HW in history - for 5/6 rounds. If Usyk got up on his toes and moved like he did against Gassiev for the first half of the fight, he would definitely have a chance of against Mike.
          Sorry, but there is zero comparison between Gassiev and Tyson.
          Gassiev stands straight up, Usyk likes these kind of opponents (Joshua, Dubois). The few times Dubois showed head movement Usyk was missing his punches. (One time it was 5 or 6 punches in a row)
          Tyson had insane head movement ánd he would counter.

          In the Gassiev fight Usyk was engaging plenty in the center of the ring. You couldn't do this with Tyson and how would he evade all body punches for even 5/6 rounds? 1 body punch from Tyson could end it all and if not it would end your legs.

          Also, Usyk has the habit leaning left or right when he steps out with a high guard. Sometimes he leans too far and exposes sides. That's how he got caught against Beterbiev. Recipe for disaster against a prime Tyson.

          Just a reminder...


          Last edited by PerfectJab; 08-31-2023, 05:04 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

            If Mcall or Rahman KOd him Wilder could have
            Meh, what happened to them in the rematch ?

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