Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue: I Have Room To Improve, I'll Get Stronger at 122

[Hustle]

You brought him up calling him a 4 division champ lmfao your all over the place you can't even keep track of what you say.

I'm done with this your just a fangirl

You asked what big win does porter have. And you literally mentioned broner with a question mark goofy.

You brought him up. And I told you he was a 4 time champ just like inoue.

You don't even remember your own arguments.

Inoue last 5 opponents speak for itself. You never even heard of 2 of them. But keep telling us how ugas, porter, Danny, Mikey are trash while ignoring Paul butler, Micheal Dasmarinas and Aran Dipaen as inoue opponents over the last 2 years. Lmaoooo

Porter trash, but that Micheal Dasmarinas is something else huh?

its clear that you're a groupie buddy

[deathofaclown]

Saturday doesn`t change anything.

I think it can if Crawford beats Spence in good fashion

he becomes undisputed in two divisions and will have just beaten a consensus top 10 p4p fighter in Spence to be undisputed in two divisions

That's certainly a strong case for p4p top spot.

Either way, inoue is number 1 as of today. Crawford would have a strong claim in victory..

Even if Spence wins, i think Inoue's achievements still put him above Spence

[BoxHead88]

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Your argument is compelling and I can see a case for it, however, it’s difficult to imagine a scenario where Spence beats Crawford AND then defend say 15 times against all the top ranked guys at 147 and then retire for me to say he’s not an ATG.

Or imagine Spence dominating Crawford and score a KO and still not outrank Crawford historically after dominating him.

If we use that analogy, we might as well PAC is the GOAT based on his 8 division titles even though 3 of those titles were cherry-picked against weak guys AND catchweight wins.

It seems like we’re debating two different things.
Same as the comment I first replied to but forgot to mention it, you’re talking about ATG status but I’m making the case as to why Spence isn’t #1p4p rn and won’t be even if he beats Bud. If Spence goes on to have the career you hypothetically propose; KOs Bud, Ennis and defends another even 5 or 6 times then retires, he probably is recognised as historically better than Crawford as one of those predominantly 1-weight fighters like a GGG or Calzaghe. I don’t think current p4p champ is the same as ATG though. They are different accolades with different criteria, ATG having the benefit of hindsight over an entire career.

[JakeTheBoxer]

I think it can if Crawford beats Spence in good fashion

he becomes undisputed in two divisions and will have just beaten a consensus top 10 p4p fighter in Spence to be undisputed in two divisions

That's certainly a strong case for p4p top spot.

Either way, inoue is number 1 as of today. Crawford would have a strong claim in victory..

Even if Spence wins, i think Inoue's achievements still put him above Spence

Inoue iced Fulton, unbeaten champ in his first fight in the new division.

That is tough to beat, man.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Lets cut the bull****.

bud and spence are top 5 p4p? Yes or no question.

Both are on every single p4p list. Fulton wasn't. So we're not about to act like inoue beating Fulton ranks higher than bud beating spence or vice versa.

As we speak inoue is definitely number 1. But that dont hold up after saturday. Especially if bud wins. That's 2 undisputed divisions. Which is what the monster is chasing now.

don't be a hypocrite

Ok, come back when Spence or Crawford move up and destroy unbeaten champ in higher division like this.

Spence is one division man. If he is p4p, Beterbiev also is.

[deathofaclown]

Ok, come back when Spence or Crawford move up and destroy unbeaten champ in higher division like this.

Spence is one division man. If he is p4p, Beterbiev also is.

Well true

But that's why I think crawford has a shout at number 1 but he would have to win in good style

It might not be his first fight at 147 but it would still undisputed in 2 divisions

But if that happens and crawford has a claim to number 1, then Inoue would certainly leave no doubt hes number 1 should he become undisputed again this year. Twice in 12 months. Nobody could argue against it.

Spence can't claim it over Inoue even if he wins. Even though people will try to say he is.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Well true

But that's why I think crawford has a shout at number 1 but he would have to win in good style

It might not be his first fight at 147 but it would still undisputed in 2 divisions

But if that happens and crawford has a claim to number 1, then Inoue would certainly leave no doubt hes number 1 should he become undisputed again this year. Twice in 12 months. Nobody could argue against it.

Spence can't claim it over Inoue even if he wins. Even though people will try to say he is.

Ok, that is fair.

And we both agree Spence can`t be N.1. p4p beating Crawford.

[BoZz]

Boring division boring fights, I keep reading people sayin how Fulton is a good fighter..he was scared to throw punches, sorry but is that how a champion 'behaves' in the ring? He from Phily and soft as hell..glad he got exposed but like I said before the division weak as hell if cowards like Fulton are considered as "great"...come up and try that sh** on the tank..tank will wipe the floor with this K POP diva Inoue.

[Oregonian]

It seems like we’re debating two different things.
Same as the comment I first replied to but forgot to mention it, you’re talking about ATG status but I’m making the case as to why Spence isn’t #1p4p rn and won’t be even if he beats Bud. If Spence goes on to have the career you hypothetically propose; KOs Bud, Ennis and defends another even 5 or 6 times then retires, he probably is recognised as historically better than Crawford as one of those predominantly 1-weight fighters like a GGG or Calzaghe. I don’t think current p4p champ is the same as ATG though. They are different accolades with different criteria, ATG having the benefit of hindsight over an entire career.

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I stand corrected. I had my argument misplaced between ATG and P4P
I agree with you

[Hustle]

Yes it means nothing. Inoue is the better fighter and is more accomplished.

More accomplished my a$$

bud is number 1 p4p.