What's the formula to beat Floyd?

[gqjohnb]

pwill isn't a WW


i don't even know if he can make WW


hatton isn't a WW. a real WW with all of the attributes I named can beat floyd.

A REAL WW!


floyd will counter the jab with the overhand right...
when? I mean Vitaly beat floyd with punching output. VITALY!!!

First of all you hardly need to throw alot of punches when a guy isnt coming forward and your landing like 60%+ of your punches so its hard for me to compare those two fights but i've seen him bump his punching output against Corley, Zab, n'dou, corrales, hatton(because he was always in range but still relatively high), gatti, manfredy... a couple of those were in lighter divisions but even still. When put in situation when combinations are needed for the win the output would go up even more.

[Crazylegs77]

I think even the most devout Floyd hater has to agree he's still tough to beat. So how do u do it?

Get under his skin, foul him, trash talk, do anything.. try to lure him into a fight. Or just keep punching like others have said.

[gqjohnb]

pwill isn't a WW


i don't even know if he can make WW


hatton isn't a WW. a real WW with all of the attributes I named can beat floyd.

A REAL WW!


floyd will counter the jab with the overhand right... only way you can get around that counter right is if you have a massive reach advantage over floyd.


when? I mean Vitaly beat floyd with punching output. VITALY!!!


sure, he's in condition, but he doesn't throw combinations.... and even if he does, its not more than 2 punches.


nobody is saying that he gases, just that he is too defensive.


nope, all it takes is someone like the attributes I noted... someone like mosley.


stop ducking mosley


that is a no brainer



cotto gases. he can't beat floyd. (but I'd still want to see it)

I agree with all the other points and to the guy who though margarito could beat floyd need only look at moseley v margarito to see what speed and skill can do to him

[shyboirank#1]

watch the jose luis castillo fight the first one and you will see the blueprint or zab judah fight 1-6

[Stickman]

First of all, you need to be his size. Then you need a good jab (that you use often), a quick straight right, and a solid left hook that you use to counter when he throws his straight right.

That combination would beat floyd every time. Problem is that Floyd knows this too. Cotto might be able to beat him, with lots of body work early, but that's uncertain. Shane Mosley would whip Floyd all over the ring and back again, provided he could get the fight before he's babysitting his grandchildren.

[Syf]

More urine?

lol...

No but... Floyd's style depends on flexibility of his core. What would dampen that flexibility? Body shots. Lots of them. Get hit to the body by a bunch of bombs and see how easy it is to duck and weave and do all that fanciness he loves to do...Once you take away his evasiveness, then all you have left is his defensive structure, and his physicality (arms) which he uses to break down most shots, when he's not evading.

So then continue to the body, and if he is hurting enough he will modify his defense to cover his body with both arms... then you switch up top with everything you have until he tightens his shell again. Then go to the body some more until his shell loosens up up top again. Rinse, repeat. The principle of change is necessary with Mayweather though... Ain't nobody gonna be able to just do one type of punch and beat him. So throw in something to keep him guessing every now and then.

But..the disadvantage with my strategy is that while you are going to his body, you have to be able to eat a lot of counter shots. And I mean alot. If Floyd is hurt, and feels very threatened and finally feels like his defense isn't enough, you are a fool if you think he will just throw 2 punch combinations.

[Danny Gunz]

I agree with all the other points and to the guy who though margarito could beat floyd need only look at moseley v margarito to see what speed and skill can do to him

I dont necessarily think marg would beat him but i think he has a better chance to beat him cause he throws so many punches and is so much bigger. If i had to pick i would say floyd would almost definetly get a UD against him though.

But mosley fighting marg would be completely different from floyd. Mosley was able to hurt marg no way floyd could even faze margarito.

[gqjohnb]

I think SYF has the right idea but you still need to be able to take the punishment and not just survive but fight pedal to the metal and we all know that when your taking punishment and getting fatigued your power and output start to suffer. and floyd's still fresh in the final rounds.

[Jiddu Dali]

I think even the most devout Floyd hater has to agree he's still tough to beat. So how do u do it?

have a defense like his...fight like him...nothing else will work..we have seen mayweather vs ALL Styles in 5 different weight divisions....

only a MIRROR image of Mayweather will beat him...

not punch volume or aggression...gimme a break

[Jiddu Dali]

watch the jose luis castillo fight the first one and you will see the blueprint or zab judah fight 1-6

wait wait wait wait..did u just say Zab rounds 1-6?..lmao..Zab maybe won 2 rounds that fight...buy the 4th round it was OVER...gimme a break

and how about looking at Castillo-Mayweather 2 to see how someone with 2 healthy hands can fight...mayweather beat castillo with one hand..then came back 6 months later and beat him with 2