Comments Thread For: Boxing's Undisputed Weekend Overshadowed By Controversy

[millcitymauler]

Are Shakur, Keyshaun Davis and Bud Crawford casuals?

…or Kellerman, Bernstein, Teddy Atlas, and even Tim Bradley had dump the “ESPN Company Man” bit, and that’s saying something!

[Theshotyoudontsee]

There would be no controversy if Devin Haney was white, the truth is lomachenko did not do enough to take the belts from the champ and his face speaks for itself. To me it looks like the whole world has to bow down to Bumachenko because he comes from a country which is backed by the west, so he can do no wrong and he can not lose no matter what happens. Just the commentators comments about how Bumachenko went to Ukraine for a year to fight tells you everything you need to know, the guy went for a few weeks didn't fire a single bullet nor was a bullet fired at him...once the fighting started he made sure his ass was out of there fast..much easier being a "hero" in the United States behind the tv screen,

There is no rule that you have to "do enough to take the belts". You just have to win the fight.

And if it had been Shakur in there and he'd been robbed in the exact same scanario, I'd be just as concerned and asking for refirms as I am now.

Race has zero to do with this. Unless you think Haney needed judging help to win. He lost and it hurts the sport.

[BoZz]

There is no rule that you have to "do enough to take the belts". You just have to win the fight.

And if it had been Shakur in there and he'd been robbed in the exact same scanario, I'd be just as concerned and asking for refirms as I am now.

Race has zero to do with this. Unless you think Haney needed judging help to win. He lost and it hurts the sport.

Did lomas face look like he won? He got hit with every body shot haney threw, I mean I'm not surprised that his fan boys think he won because remember he won against Teofimo too?!

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Did lomas face look like he won? He got hit with every body shot haney threw, I mean I'm not surprised that his fan boys think he won because remember he won against Teofimo too?!

Some guys mark up easier than others. Has no bearing on who won the fight. The body shots were not only ineffective, in many cases they were low. EFFECTIVE punching. Haney was hurt late in the fate because of the accumulation of Loma's effective aggression.

It is obvious who won. But as I said yesterday, racists want to say it is because "Loma is white". If it had been two white dudes I'd say the same thing. Who gives a **** about their skin color? It is a sport where the best man wins. To bring up race shows your own bias.

[SteelFist01]

There would be no controversy if Devin Haney was white, the truth is lomachenko did not do enough to take the belts from the champ and his face speaks for itself. To me it looks like the whole world has to bow down to Bumachenko because he comes from a country which is backed by the west, so he can do no wrong and he can not lose no matter what happens. Just the commentators comments about how Bumachenko went to Ukraine for a year to fight tells you everything you need to know, the guy went for a few weeks didn't fire a single bullet nor was a bullet fired at him...once the fighting started he made sure his ass was out of there fast..much easier being a "hero" in the United States behind the tv screen,

Haha you're pretty dense, my man. It appears that this sport isn't for you, because clearly you truly don't know ish about boxing. There's a lot of nonsense to unpack with your silly comment, but I'll try my best, lol. First of all, most people are viewing this fight in terms of race, aside of course from narrow minded simpletons like yourself. And, if Lomachenko is a bum, then what does that make Haney? Because Haney certainly didn't dominate him in any way, and to suggest otherwise tells me that you are either a fan boy that makes excuses for your favorite fighter, or you are clueless and have no idea what you're watching and talking about. And, political bull**** aside, why wouldn't commentators mention that he was serving his country, which by the way, there are plenty of people who serve their country and serve in the military that don't see combat, so not sure what your point is there. You just seem to have a hard on for Loma, and it's OK, I get it. But, you're reaching pretty far if you think that his race and the current situation that his country in is why people think that the fight was close and the controversial scorecard from dip**** Dave Moretti was suspect, and not on merit, then like I said, you're even more dense than I thought...

[Hnnnggg]

Did lomas face look like he won? He got hit with every body shot haney threw, I mean I'm not surprised that his fan boys think he won because remember he won against Teofimo too?!

How someone looks after a fight is irrelevant to what happened during the fight. If we judged the winner based off of how they looked, lopez would have beaten Valdez. Body shots don’t outweigh head snapping punches. Only one guy was hurt in the fight and it wasn’t Loma.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Every news outlet called that 115-113 Loma. The only people calling it for Haney are the aforementioned casuals.

And this is controversial because Top Rank people were acting like they knew who won before the fight.

How do you explain why, when they asked Muratalla who he wanted next, and he said he wanted the winner of the main event, they said "you mean Devin Haney.". That was before even the Valdez fight, let alone the actual main event had even happened. You don't smell a fix there??

Then they bring in Shakur post fight to do damage control, because he's been saying the whole time that Haney would win easy, and he can usually be counted on to crow about being right. And so they ask him "what did Haney do well?" And he responded with "Loma won that fight."

It was a close fight, and I wouldn't be as concerned if I hadn't watched them overlook Loma the whole fight week, and run several "what's next for Haney after he beats Loma" narratives, and then slip up during the Muratalla interview. I don't care about race. Frankly, I thought Haney did really well. But that's very sketchy. No way did Haney win every swing round, and solely on ineffective body punches.

[factsarenice]

In Context:
Haney beat curious George (AKA "the ghost of Carlos Baldomir") while at the same time Arum is negotiating a fight between Teo and Taylor AND negotiating Haney vs the winner on the back end. Teofimo is unhappy with Arums favoritism toward Devin Haney and makes it known.

Fast forward, Devin Haney loses the fight by all in attendance (hometown) yet still....Devin receives a ridiculous score card by grifter Dave Morrtti.

Today, people are expected to forget what their eyes see and instead accept that Arum just happen to pick the winner ahead of negotiations that would allow him to maintain control over two divisions by pure coincidence....

And everyone is supposed to be ok with that??

[richardt]

1) The screen I watched the fight on was too small for me to tell who won with any precision from my own perspective since the boxers were too small in my viewer.
2) Dave Moretti NEEDS to be investigated for the Davis/Ryan knockdown round and the Haney/Loma round 10.
3) Bozz is an idiot since no one ever indicates a winner by how their face looks, among other ******, neurotic statements.
4) Buddyr is a sociopath quite obviously by laughing at Loma's private pain moment.
5) Loma should get a rematch.
6) Many of Haney's fans have actually been cool, and were even upset when Haney shoved Loma at the weigh-in.

[Monty Fisto]

I agree w you about the Ortiz cards being wide. Biggest case of sore loser would definitely be more along the lines of Teo after losing to Kambosos or Joshua after his recent loss to Usyk.

Joshua lacked grace in his second defeat to Usyk, but didn't try to suggest it was the wrong result or that his opponent had cheated. Wilder after the second fight with Fury was the sorest loser of all time.