Did Oscar Take A Dive

[DLT]

First of all I really like Oscar, but I do believe he is overated. But I've never questioned his heart and I would never believe that he would take a dive. But it has to make you wonder when you see him and Bernard that close. I remember him giving a interview right before the fight and it seemed like he had Hopkins right up there with Vargas on the hate meter saying that "I've never wanted to beat a guy so bad and I just hate the way he acts and that he dosent carry hiself with enough class to be a champ". He even said that his wife doesnt like him and calls him ugly. Could you picture DeLahoya saying to Bernard that "you know Bernard you could make alot of money with having the DeLahoya name behind you" and Hopkins saying the only way that I would do it if you let me fight you first. DeLahoya probally said no to this, but then got to thinking how much money he could get managing Bernard. Also he would get 30 million for a fight just to take a dive, and he would recieve alot of money for putting together Hopkins-Trinadad, and he could also fight the winner and get even more mone especially if it's Hopkins. I remember first DeLahoha would never talk about Hopkins or that Bernard would be his last fight but know time soon. He was suppose to fight Tito, or if not him, than a rematch with Shane, Vargas, Forrest, or Winky. Then all of a sudden he's moving up to Middelweight to fight Bernard. First he said Middelwieght was to big for him and that he would only fight at 154 or a catch weight. Look at how soon it is after the fight. Most fighters wouldnt even speak to eachother that soon. Bernards not young and dumb. He's been ****ed out of money before. No way is he just going to jump in a contract. Do you know how long it takes to get a contract finalized. Do you know how much bull**** you have to go through, and they already got a contract signed and making annoucements this soon, and are at the fights all buddy buddy. Does it look like to you that these guys ever didnt like eachother. Now lets go to the fight. We seen what Hopkins did to Joppy, and DeLahoya doesnt have Tito's power but he chooses to box him from the outside. Remember the whole fight how everyone was wondering why Bernard did not try to force his size, strength, and will on DeLahoya. He didnt even land any solid punches to the end of the fight. Then we all know how it ended. A body punch that looked like it couldnt even break a paper bag. Also dont forget that some people had Oscar winning at the time of the stoppage. Can you picture Oscar planning something telling Bernard "weve been boxing for a long time. We know how to fix a fight with out making it look fake. Just stay on the outside and box me. Let me win some rounds and make it look like I was winning and then you knock me out with a body shot. You cant hit me in the face because it's hard to look real without really knocking me out. But if you do it in the body we could just say you hit me in the right spot. Nobody will question us because Gatti just KO Dorin with a body shot". Didnt it look kind of strange how he went down and stayed down punching the ground and then jumped up as soon as it hit the 10 count. He was punching the ground like damn man. I cant get up. Dorin didnt do that. Virgil Hill didnt do that when Roy Jones hit him. If it's a real punishing body shot it hurts to much to do that ****. It looked kind of fake to me, but I let it go until I seen them last night and all I'm saying is it makes you wonder

[Kimmy]

If that was the case Oscar De La Hoya wasting all tfighting those years fighting the likes of Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley. Oscar wouldn`t take a dive and even more so Hopkins would never risk damaging his reputation by being involved in such a thing.

[Argentina]

NO. People need to stop with their conspiracy theories, this is part of what's wrong with boxing. If you've never been hit in the kidney or aroudn that area, then you wouldn't know what he's talking about (De la Hoya).

[jujuman]

why would he take a dive? Winning would be more profitable to oscar. The most i would agree to is that he would have found a way to get up if he thought he could win the fight. He probably just said "forget it!" but i think he did get caught with a legit body shot, it was more to the back area than the ribs, try tapping your self there and see how it feels. then imagine Benard catching you there witha nice "jump in" left hook.

[Kimmy]

Yeah, and the fight was still there on the scorecards, Hopkins was a little bit ahead but it wasn`t over in the scoring for Oscar. He must hve known that, this is Oscar De La Hoya, he gets verdicts. He must have tired to get up, he just couldn`t!

[rsl]

I've given the same answer in other post w/ the same question and NO I don't think Oscar took a dive, he just plain and simply didn't have the fight in him. Could he have gotten up to beat the count? I think so, but when you have 30 million and possibly more waiting for you in the stretched limo, I'd say the hell with it, take my money and run to the stars!

[jujuman]

oscar is my man, but i i belived ben would knock him out, oscar actually did better than i thought, ben was just tooooooo strong for him.

[Deejay]

You can call oscar alot of things, but a quitter? NO WAY!! The guy has taken on the best competition for his whole career and given it his best each time around. He simply got caught with a great bodyshot by Hopkins.

[FistoftheDallasStar]

Oscar has been through too much in his career to take a dive for a partnership.... This would get interesting though if Oscar and Bernard fought again, with both of them promoting the fight they could be in for the biggest pay day in boxing history.

[Neuraxis]

The fact of the matter is that Hopkins outweighed DLH by 15 lbs.