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Originally posted by p4p-champ View PostExposing Mayweather would be beating him him down by breaking through his defense. P-Will has a great as shot as there is out there if he can come back down to welterweight...but 'exposing' Mayweather? Naw...it would merely go 12 rounds and with P-Will taking it by points.
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Originally posted by Al Haymon View PostOn September 18th, everybody was saying that Pacquiao was the man to beat Floyd. Then FMJ slices through Marquez. And Shane throws a sissyfit in the ring, thanks to Hopkins.
Now, Shane is the man. Pac is too small.
NSB is a bit fickle.
Originally posted by p4p-champ View PostIts like a flavor of the month type of thing...there is always someone new to whoop Mayweather.
Only guy i see to truly give him a run for his money is Williams.
Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postpac is too small. pbf is a MW on fight night. pac is a WW.
pac/floyd is the biggest fight, but ya'll are talking too soon. i don't even think pac gets past cotto and even if he does, he might never be teh same again.
shane's not a hypocrite, but he's a junior partner at GBP.
even RJJ, Toney, and a bunch of other boxer have been tested positive for steroids. that doesn't make it right, but mosley is all ya'll wanna focus on.
pwill would expose floyd too.
mosley IS a hypocrite.
Originally posted by BoxingScribe View PostFloyd can't pick off and sholder roll 100 punches a round for 12 rounds. Plus Paul has a 7 inche height advantage and a 12 inch reach advantage. Floyd couldn't leap in, score, and get away from him in time not to get countered. And a southpaw fighter totally nullifies the shoulder roll defense. Thats why Floyd had to go to a peek-a-boo defense against Zab after the first few rounds.
PW lost to carlos quintana, lets not act like he's UNBEATABLE....and i still say, PW lost to quintana because he wasn't taking him seriously, and probably overlooked him. but like i said, carlos quintana outboxed him for 12 rounds, you'd have to be an idiot to say floyd mayweather stands no chance.....and i call you an idiot, with all due respect.
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floyd..... wat other option do u have? it's either the winner of pacman vs cotto, or mosley.
And I think I figured out what he is doing though, I'm sure he is going to wait for mosley to have a fight with berto, then take him on when he is 39 and beatin up then take an easy victory.
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Originally posted by tyde13 View Postjust a bit?
williams is the only guy at 147 that has a chance at beating floyd.....i'd hate to see them fight.
pbf is a mw on fight night? since when?
mosley IS a hypocrite.
both guys are my favorite fighters, but be real man......
PW lost to carlos quintana, lets not act like he's UNBEATABLE....and i still say, PW lost to quintana because he wasn't taking him seriously, and probably overlooked him. but like i said, carlos quintana outboxed him for 12 rounds, you'd have to be an idiot to say floyd mayweather stands no chance.....and i call you an idiot, with all due respect.
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Originally posted by BoxingScribe View PostDude you can watch it 100 times and Zab didn't step on his foot. Floyd stepped forward on the outside of Zab's foot. Zab shot a counter hook on Floyd's temple and circled to his left. In fact, when Floyd stepped forward with his job and Zab caught him, Zab's right foot never moved. Please watch again. That was a legit knockdown that wasnt called.
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Originally posted by BoxingScribe View PostFloyd can't pick off and sholder roll 100 punches a round for 12 rounds. Plus Paul has a 7 inche height advantage and a 12 inch reach advantage. Floyd couldn't leap in, score, and get away from him in time not to get countered. And a southpaw fighter totally nullifies the shoulder roll defense. Thats why Floyd had to go to a peek-a-boo defense against Zab after the first few rounds.
If a southpaw nullifies the shoulder-roll...then Pacman should be able to beat Mayweather...no? What happen to Zab, Mitchell, Corely...
Listen, I know southpaws can give Mayweather a bit more trouble than an orthodox fighter but the guy knows how to adjust and his defense is by far the top one out there...I just don't see P-Will 'exposing' Mayweather....beating on him cards, yes.Last edited by p4p-champ; 09-28-2009, 01:31 PM.
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Originally posted by EmBattle View PostIt's going to take a hell of a payday to get Floyd in that ring with Shane. Shane as I've stated on several of my entries will have to put himself in a position which somehow forces Mayweather to have to get into the ring with him. Floyd doesn't have a belt now so he can fight whom ever he wants. The only fight I see awaiting Floyd which he is actually motivated for is the winner of Pacman Vs Cotto. I really doubt he'll fight someone other than the winner of that fight. I'm sure he isn't even considering Clotty who just lost to Cotto. Margarito is not an option after his cheating ways. Paul Williams has other business to attend to but I don't think Floyd wants it with Williams anyway. He'll be taking too much of a risk. I think People would really pay to see that fight though.
Besides Pacman who has proven himself to be considered a welterweight contender I'm hoping Floyd doesn't fight anyone else that needs to gain weight to fight at welterweight. Hatton and Marquez were fair choices. But that's got to stop now. I'm hoping Floyd mixes it up with guys his size & strength. His undefeated record can only hold but so much merit. It means nothing if he's not competing against top level fighters "in his division." I'm a big fan of Floyd's and I do understand that "This is business." But, this sport is about competition.
Cotto has Fought Clotty, Margarito, Mosley, & Quintana who gave Williams his first lost which shows, Williams is beatable. Shane, well who hasn't Shane fought? Clotty was largely avoided and came up short both times he fought top tier opponents. "But" he's in the welterweight mix.
I hope Floyd understands that as good as he is, his legacy will be determined against his opposition. Who he has faced will describe the force that which is, and isn't Floyd Mayweather Jr.. And so far, he has done quite well with earning a dollar. There are still several fundamental questions to be asked about his heart, he willingness to put it all on the line. In his career as of late, I say after Shamba Mitchell, his career has been about Money. I'm not saying that's good or bad, right or wrong. What I'm speaking about is, when are you going to return to reestablishing the legacy we all know you are capable of establishing. It's not like the professionals in your weight class aren't available for you.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostBoxing is both a sport and a business. But the business relies on the credibility of the sport. If boxing the sport loses its credibility, boxing the business will die. It used to be a mainstream sport, now it's a niche sport, and a lot of the reason for that is because there are too many people who forget that it's a sport.
If all you care about is the business and if you have no interest in the sport of boxing, fine, enjoy your accountancy, but DON'T insult our intelligence by pretending you're a boxing fan when you're only an accountancy fan.
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Originally posted by jaestix1 View Postage is very relevant because it WILL be the excuse use by people after floyd beats him
Originally posted by jaestix1 View Postall of the greats tried to avenge their loses.
Originally posted by jaestix1 View Postssm hasn't mention cotto's name in over a year!!!!!
Originally posted by jaestix1 View Postdo you actually think that if shane was in floyd's position he'd be trying to fight floyd over pac and cotto???
1) Pac and Cotto are not available yet. Mosley is.
2) The fight between Mayweather and the Pac/Cotto winner would be a far bigger fight commercially if Mayweather came into the fight as the Ring and lineal Welterweight champion, having already beaten Mosley, than it would be if he hung around waiting, because it would then be for all the marbles.
3) If Pac beats Cotto, the Mayweather-Pac fight may well not get made anyway, because Pac would certainly insist on more than 50/50 in his favour, and Floyd would probably refuse to accept that.
It is quite possible, if Mayweather refuses to fight Mosley now, and if Pac beats Cotto, that Pac would end up deciding to fight Mosley next, because that would be a far easier fight to negotiate than Pac-Mayweather. If that happened, Mayweather would have thrown away not one, but two megafights, which would be a supreme irony, in the circumstances.
4) Even if Pac-Mayweather did get made, it would probably take months to negotiate, during which time, it would be in Mayweather's interests commercially, legacy-wise and from every possible point of view to fight Mosley while he's waiting.
5) Floyd isn't saying he wants to fight the Pac/Cotto winner followed by Mosley. He is saying he doesn't want to fight Mosley period.Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-28-2009, 02:42 PM.
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