Comments Thread For: George Warren Faults Hearn, Matchroom For Fury-Joshua Talks Fizzling

[bullydean]

Charr and Chisora are both washed! Fighting either of them is an insult to the fans!

I didn't say it wasn't because it is an insult, but fighters haven't been doing fan fights for decades because it isn't the smart thing to do most of the time.

[super-x]

Yup, bingo. I totally believe recent statements from Arum and George Warren, AJ’s team went into negotiating this fight because they didn’t have an out, and Fury gave them an out by acting all unhinged.

Right now, the Fury team should make a public statement saying, “there’s still plenty of time, we still want to negotiate”.

There is a chance Hearn is avoiding them knowing they will come back at him and be less dictative in the final stages of negotiations of contract... as this is a no brainer for fury to make a joshua fight over anything else, for fame and the fortune that comes with this victory

[ShoulderRoll]

I've jut read Jff Powels comments on the matter & he confirmed what I've already said & it's worse that I thought.
Aj is so whored out with sponsorships he was demanding A-side to keep them all happy.

He's a 1man ufc in his own promotion & has to have everything his way. The delusonal stroppy meltdown child. #nolegacy unless you count shot 38-41 year olds

Where did you read that?

[MastaBlasta]

Unfortunately, Hrgovic is going to inherit the vacant IBF belt after the Fury vs. Usyk winner vacates.

He is co-promoted by Matchroom and Wasserman, so it is an easy fight to make and the financial incentive for Hrgovic to sell his belt to AJ is obvious.

Then Hearn will come back to the table demanding a 50/50 split against Fury.

Very possible.

[Zelda]

Joyce wants the fight now! fury said he needs to get his name up first. Joyce is a better fight than Charr or Chisora!

Boxing is big business, not just a sport. Joyce may say something or even actually want it, but it is unlikely to happen right now.

Warren would like this start fighters to go chase those belts are are not with Queensburry rather han have in-house championship fights. Today, they have just the WBC but now Joyce and Dubois have nicely positioned themselves for forthcoming mandatories. Queensburry and the boxers would be more than happy to go after the other belts than compete agaisnt WBC that they already have.

[vital1983]

Fury on the wind up, and got his bluff called. Then both sides didn't want to back down in the ensuing charade.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You have to wonder, for how long did Tyson Fury plan this offer for a December fight for Usyk or Joshua?

Did he tell his team in the summer? 'Hey I am not really retired, it is just a game I am playing. Soon as the Joshua vs Usyk II fight is over? I am going to challenge ether fighter to a quick turn around fight.

How long did Frank Warren, George Warren and Francis Warren know? About this offer?

Tyson Fury for months was claiming that he was retired. That was it.

Then suddenly moments after the Usyk vs Joshua rematch, HE was back out of retirement.

And was making demands of a quick turn around fight in December.

Nobody is 100% to blame, but Tyson Fury must of well known with all his experience in the sport. That at top elite level, YOU do not force other top fighters who have just come out of a 12 round fight into a quick turn around fight 'He must of known this, and his team also would of known this'.

I am still adamant that Tyson Fury created this entire situation. Not Eddie Hearn, not Frank Warren or anybody else. Tyson Fury created the situation and from the start made it a difficult extremely difficult tasks for the promoters to set a deal.

Who come up with the 24 hour limits to decide? Who come up with the ideas of the December fight dates? Tyson Fury.

And it was also Tyson Fury who would not move from this dates. And he has the WBC king has all the power to do just that.

The fight with Usyk could of been made if he just decided to fight at a later date other than December. And the fight with Joshua also could of been made if the fight dates were later. It was clear and unprecedented that such a big fight involving fighters with masses of commercial interests would get made so quick.

Note: People complained over the Kiltschko dominance, but they fought all the fighters they could. And they were always direct and concise with their offers. So far Tyson Fury has been a mess as a champion, both inside and outside of the ring. It seems to be a extremely difficult task for fighters to actually get inside the ring with him. Overly difficult, it just seems like they always have to experience unnecessary processes. Wilder had to go to court, and both Usyk & Joshua were subjected to more nonsense. Fury went silent on Usyk and was the first of the two fighters to stop negotiating, and well we have all just witnessed what happened with Joshua.

And you have Tyson Fury's hardcore fans, all trying to decipher what Fury actually wants or means by his demands or behaviors. And it is all conflicting.

So all in all, this all started with Tyson Fury. He created the entire situation.

Tyson Fury when it comes time to fight, he turns up 'The man is big time performer'. But right now, nobody knows for sure when that time will come again.