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    #21
    Originally posted by Nusky View Post
    When Haney was trying to fight this clown him and his b---h of a promoter grabbed that garbage,useless franchise belt with the quickness.

    Now that he's Teofimo's LEFTOVERS and BELTLESS he's eager to fight Haney.

    I don't mind seeing the fight its a solid fight... But if I was Haney I wouldn't give the arrogant Midget a second thought.
    Clown? That's how you view a white top of the echelon boxer with 2 gold medals and 5 major belts in first 15 fights? Sounds prejudicial for sure. Tribalism.

    Typical idiots who say Loma is the great white hope and goaded Haney to continue his racist rant, 'no white Boi will ever beat me in the ring' when asked about Loma, repeatedly parrot the narrative that Loma, for some God forsaken reason, ducked Haney.

    The false narrative bandied about so easily with low IQ veracity is beyond ******. It's low level kindergarten 101 logic not with clarity but perverted bias, making it up, twisting events to some made belief truth.


    Franchise belt? A mando couldn't be ordered before the fight for undisputed and never was ordered. Per sanctioning rules.

    Franchise was 100 percent about Loma and zero percent about Haney.

    So, Haney started baiting Loma in the media, saying, 'why don't you fight me first, constantly chirping'. Haney didn't need to do that if Hearns would but just get the Mando ordered. He couldn't and didn't. Read the rules or better if you ask nice I'll post them here.

    Loma had one goal, fight winner of Comey and Teo. Three belts and no Mando fights were ordered, because they couldn't. Loma never took Franchise to avoid Haney. The fight with Haney could not be ordered regardless. Loma said in the media he wants Teo and then Tank and then Haney, all before he fought Teo and lost.

    He wanted all the smoke with the belts, unlike Haney who now that he has all the belts wants to avoid all the heat.

    After Loma lost to Teo, Loma still wanted to fight Haney, not Commey and not Nagatani, but Haney said fine, 'for 5 mill', disingenuousy pricing himself out on purpose. Haney would lose to Nakatani or it would go to decision. Pillow fisted Haney could not put a dent into that man. Teo had a tough, tough time that went the distance for him, first time in his career. The guy, Haney, will run from Loma. He will duck Loma. He will drop all four belts rather than take the loss. If he fights Loma, Loma schools him. Guaranteed.

    He fought 13 champions in 15 fights. Haney would not be the best opponent on that list. Loma won his 2nd gold medal at the age Haney was fighting 0 and 0 opponents padding that weak, inept resume.

    Haney has reach, jab and shoulder roll and weak chin. Good luck against a superior boxer like Loma. Next you'll bring up Salido, Teo or Linares. Loma tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round of the Linares fight and got knocked down in the 6th, but wasn't daized like Devon was in the 10th. Loma took out Linares in the 10th. He had a reinjury of same shoulder in Teo fight but did admirably where Teo was knocking out boxers left and right. Salido was a job, 45 low blows, not one point deducted. Salido came in overweight so shouldn't even have been fighting. 13 champions in 15 fights, 5 major belts in three divisions, while Haney was fighting guys with 0 and 0 records. C'mon, Loma is something Devon has never seen before. Devon is just another tune up for Loma, and after Loma dismantles him, you will be saying 'Yeah, but, he hasn't fought Tank yet, he hasn't fought Shakur yet, Haney was just another Ax man or another Rigo, a nobody'.

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      #22
      Haney produces the same problem for Loma as FMW at 130 and Crawford at 135 (beatdown and stoppage here)

      FMW 5'8 72 reach
      Crawford 5'8 74'' reach
      Haney 5'8 72 reach

      Loma T-Rex

      Anyway, Bob can make the fight. Length will be an issue just like Loma's manager said if Loma and Crawford were in 135 at the time. The big edge for Loma is Haney doesn't have stopping power so it's a 12-rounder.

      Haven't watched enough of Haney to say if he knows how to manage distance yet.
      Last edited by hhh1200; 08-26-2022, 01:35 AM.
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        #23
        Originally posted by TDLand View Post

        Clown? That's how you view a white top of the echelon boxer with 2 gold medals and 5 major belts in first 15 fights? Sounds prejudicial for sure. Tribalism.

        Typical idiots who say Loma is the great white hope and goaded Haney to continue his racist rant, 'no white Boi will ever beat me in the ring' when asked about Loma, repeatedly parrot the narrative that Loma, for some God forsaken reason, ducked Haney.

        The false narrative bandied about so easily with low IQ veracity is beyond ******. It's low level kindergarten 101 logic not with clarity but perverted bias, making it up, twisting events to some made belief truth.


        Franchise belt? A mando couldn't be ordered before the fight for undisputed and never was ordered. Per sanctioning rules.

        Franchise was 100 percent about Loma and zero percent about Haney.

        So, Haney started baiting Loma in the media, saying, 'why don't you fight me first, constantly chirping'. Haney didn't need to do that if Hearns would but just get the Mando ordered. He couldn't and didn't. Read the rules or better if you ask nice I'll post them here.

        Loma had one goal, fight winner of Comey and Teo. Three belts and no Mando fights were ordered, because they couldn't. Loma never took Franchise to avoid Haney. The fight with Haney could not be ordered regardless. Loma said in the media he wants Teo and then Tank and then Haney, all before he fought Teo and lost.

        He wanted all the smoke with the belts, unlike Haney who now that he has all the belts wants to avoid all the heat.

        After Loma lost to Teo, Loma still wanted to fight Haney, not Commey and not Nagatani, but Haney said fine, 'for 5 mill', disingenuousy pricing himself out on purpose. Haney would lose to Nakatani or it would go to decision. Pillow fisted Haney could not put a dent into that man. Teo had a tough, tough time that went the distance for him, first time in his career. The guy, Haney, will run from Loma. He will duck Loma. He will drop all four belts rather than take the loss. If he fights Loma, Loma schools him. Guaranteed.

        He fought 13 champions in 15 fights. Haney would not be the best opponent on that list. Loma won his 2nd gold medal at the age Haney was fighting 0 and 0 opponents padding that weak, inept resume.

        Haney has reach, jab and shoulder roll and weak chin. Good luck against a superior boxer like Loma. Next you'll bring up Salido, Teo or Linares. Loma tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round of the Linares fight and got knocked down in the 6th, but wasn't daized like Devon was in the 10th. Loma took out Linares in the 10th. He had a reinjury of same shoulder in Teo fight but did admirably where Teo was knocking out boxers left and right. Salido was a job, 45 low blows, not one point deducted. Salido came in overweight so shouldn't even have been fighting. 13 champions in 15 fights, 5 major belts in three divisions, while Haney was fighting guys with 0 and 0 records. C'mon, Loma is something Devon has never seen before. Devon is just another tune up for Loma, and after Loma dismantles him, you will be saying 'Yeah, but, he hasn't fought Tank yet, he hasn't fought Shakur yet, Haney was just another Ax man or another Rigo, a nobody'.
        THANK YOU, Finally someone with some sense and none of this made up "avoiding/ducking" nonsense.

        I love how they leave out that Loma fought a more dangerous fight in Lopez to try to become undisputed. They like to harp on the "oh he ducked Haney" illusion when in fact, he had told Teo to get a belt and he'd fight him. Teo did just that and Loma held up his end of the deal.

        Haney was just a mandatory at the time and Teo was an actual champion but somehow fighting another champion makes you a "ducker". He should've been praised for taking on the bigger challenge at the time but these so called fans like to flip the narrative because he didn't fight who they wanted him to fight. IMO, they should be glad - Loma would've put a beating on Haney based on Haney's last few fights.

        I still see nothing impressive about Haney TBH. He beat a limited fighter in Kambosos who got lucky vs Teo and, while he is the rightful undisputed champ, it turned out to be the easiest way to become undisputed. I think if Tank's promoters finally take off his training wheels and let him fight Haney, Haney would get beat soundly and most likely knocked out. Haney's fans are the same ones who also say Teo ducked Haney when Teo was about to be stripped of the IBF title had he not fought Kambosos but fail to remember that Teo said Haney would be next after his mandatory. A healthy Teo would also put a beating on Haney.

        If Haney doesn't fight Loma to supposedly "prove a point" and fights someone not named Tank or Stevenson, that would actually be avoiding. Again, Loma did it to add another belt. Haney would be doing it to literally not fight Loma when that's a fight true boxing fans should want to see. Who knows, maybe Haney will prove me wrong and beat Loma but that's something he has to prove in the ring.
        Last edited by bori84; 08-26-2022, 02:24 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by TDLand View Post

          Clown? That's how you view a white top of the echelon boxer with 2 gold medals and 5 major belts in first 15 fights? Sounds prejudicial for sure. Tribalism.

          Typical idiots who say Loma is the great white hope and goaded Haney to continue his racist rant, 'no white Boi will ever beat me in the ring' when asked about Loma, repeatedly parrot the narrative that Loma, for some God forsaken reason, ducked Haney.

          The false narrative bandied about so easily with low IQ veracity is beyond ******. It's low level kindergarten 101 logic not with clarity but perverted bias, making it up, twisting events to some made belief truth.


          Franchise belt? A mando couldn't be ordered before the fight for undisputed and never was ordered. Per sanctioning rules.

          Franchise was 100 percent about Loma and zero percent about Haney.

          So, Haney started baiting Loma in the media, saying, 'why don't you fight me first, constantly chirping'. Haney didn't need to do that if Hearns would but just get the Mando ordered. He couldn't and didn't. Read the rules or better if you ask nice I'll post them here.

          Loma had one goal, fight winner of Comey and Teo. Three belts and no Mando fights were ordered, because they couldn't. Loma never took Franchise to avoid Haney. The fight with Haney could not be ordered regardless. Loma said in the media he wants Teo and then Tank and then Haney, all before he fought Teo and lost.

          He wanted all the smoke with the belts, unlike Haney who now that he has all the belts wants to avoid all the heat.

          After Loma lost to Teo, Loma still wanted to fight Haney, not Commey and not Nagatani, but Haney said fine, 'for 5 mill', disingenuousy pricing himself out on purpose. Haney would lose to Nakatani or it would go to decision. Pillow fisted Haney could not put a dent into that man. Teo had a tough, tough time that went the distance for him, first time in his career. The guy, Haney, will run from Loma. He will duck Loma. He will drop all four belts rather than take the loss. If he fights Loma, Loma schools him. Guaranteed.

          He fought 13 champions in 15 fights. Haney would not be the best opponent on that list. Loma won his 2nd gold medal at the age Haney was fighting 0 and 0 opponents padding that weak, inept resume.

          Haney has reach, jab and shoulder roll and weak chin. Good luck against a superior boxer like Loma. Next you'll bring up Salido, Teo or Linares. Loma tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round of the Linares fight and got knocked down in the 6th, but wasn't daized like Devon was in the 10th. Loma took out Linares in the 10th. He had a reinjury of same shoulder in Teo fight but did admirably where Teo was knocking out boxers left and right. Salido was a job, 45 low blows, not one point deducted. Salido came in overweight so shouldn't even have been fighting. 13 champions in 15 fights, 5 major belts in three divisions, while Haney was fighting guys with 0 and 0 records. C'mon, Loma is something Devon has never seen before. Devon is just another tune up for Loma, and after Loma dismantles him, you will be saying 'Yeah, but, he hasn't fought Tank yet, he hasn't fought Shakur yet, Haney was just another Ax man or another Rigo, a nobody'.
          literally the only problem with what you’ve said is that Loma should have never had the WBC belt. Why was it put on the line vacant for his Luke Campbell fight when Loma was already a champion with other sanctioning bodies

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            #25
            Originally posted by jackkeane6 View Post

            literally the only problem with what you’ve said is that Loma should have never had the WBC belt. Why was it put on the line vacant for his Luke Campbell fight when Loma was already a champion with other sanctioning bodies
            Him being a champion with other sanctioning bodies should've actually been a reason to make him a challenger for it.

            Campbell was the #1 ranked by the WBC and was the mandatory to Mikey Garcia, the WBC champ at the time.

            So, when Garcia vacated it to go to welterweight for the fight vs Spence, Campbell was rightfully given the opportunity to fight for it and being that Loma was the champion with other bodies and the best lightweight at the time, why wouldn't he be the opponent?

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              #26
              Haney can beat Loma but I don’t want him to fight him either e drop the belt after defeating Kamboso again to hurt them more or request for the franchise and drop the main belt to see their reactions

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                #27
                It would also be fair if Shakur Stevenson got to fight the Haney vs. Kambosos winner, if he chose that route. Loma had a chance to fight Haney a long time ago, and chose not to, so if Shakur wants it, give it to him, and let Loma face the Haney vs. Stevenson winner.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by bori84 View Post

                  Him being a champion with other sanctioning bodies should've actually been a reason to make him a challenger for it.

                  Campbell was the #1 ranked by the WBC and was the mandatory to Mikey Garcia, the WBC champ at the time.

                  So, when Garcia vacated it to go to welterweight for the fight vs Spence, Campbell was rightfully given the opportunity to fight for it and being that Loma was the champion with other bodies and the best lightweight at the time, why wouldn't he be the opponent?
                  Because it should have been the two highest ranked lightweights fighting for the title. Same as the rankings work in every other division and sanctioning body. Only other time I know of when somethings happened similar is when the vacant WBA got put on the line for Klitschko and AJ. Not denying that Loma was the best in the division, just that that’s not the way things should work. That’s like saying if the WBC had stripped Fury, the belt should have been put on the line for Usyk AJ 2, when in that situation it should be on the line for the 2 highest ranked contenders

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                    #29
                    Haney will vacate and go to 140.

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                      #30
                      Loma is being rewarded for his “fan base”. He lost his belts before the war fought two mid contenders after and is deserving of jumping the line because…? He’ll get the fight bc it’s already signed, but he is by no means deserving

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