Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford: Jaron Ennis Going To Be Force To Be Reckoned With - I'd Fight Him

[tokon]

I think win, lose, or draw, Spence moves to 154! No doubt, if Crawford wins, he's going for Jermell Charlo! Question is what happens if Spence wins? Would he really fight his stablemate?

Good possibility, if Spence wins, that Charlo takes the Tzyu fight them moves up to 160 with the other Charlo going to 168. But who knows?! Thanks.

[Bronx2245]

Good possibility, if Spence wins, that Charlo takes the Tzyu fight them moves up to 160 with the other Charlo going to 168. But who knows?! Thanks.

In a perfect world, those 3 make the move together! Jermall is getting on my last nerve! He should be negotiating a fight with Benavidez NOW!!!

[tokon]

In a perfect world, those 3 make the move together! Jermall is getting on my last nerve! He should be negotiating a fight with Benavidez NOW!!!

Jermell seems to be the real fighter out of the two. Jermall is looking for easy work and/or big $$$ not challenges.

[Topdogggbm]

Sean Zittel (FightHype, Porter Way Podcast, etc) has repeatedly called out the same thing. You're blind if you claim to not have seen it, it's every fight. He doesn't move his head hardly at all.

It's not about being "troubled". He's getting hit when he doesn't need to and the moment someone with power lands, he won't walk through it. He's just been fighting scrubs so you're fooled off the 'eye test'.

Same was true of NSB's last 'eye test' in the Bully Bektemir. We saw what eventually happened to him.

Ok so you heard one guy say that and want to ride THAT wave? I don't really care what Sean Zitty says. I'm going to side with the word of fighters, people that have been in with him. People that actually fight for a living.

I'm not sure if going against the grain just makes you look forward to 10 years from now when he loses a fight, you can come back here and say "I knew it!" or what. But if you can't see that man has elite talent written all over him, you're just being a hater. I'm speechless how someone can look at Boots and say "meh, he's just ok". That's just not being realistic

[Combat Talk Radio]

Ok so you heard one guy say that and want to ride THAT wave? I don't really care what Sean Zitty says. I'm going to side with the word of fighters, people that have been in with him. People that actually fight for a living.

I'm not sure if going against the grain just makes you look forward to 10 years from now when he loses a fight, you can come back here and say "I knew it!" or what. But if you can't see that man has elite talent written all over him, you're just being a hater. I'm speechless how someone can look at Boots and say "meh, he's just ok". That's just not being realistic

Sean Zittel has more boxing wisdom than most fighters. Including Shawn Porter. Zittel has near perfectly predicted almost every fight outcome because he's a student of the game and a historian.

Boots has talent, but he's overrated.

I remember plenty of you on here claiming that 'CM Punk' Kambosos was elite because of his win over Teo. Before the Haney fight, I told George directly, as a fan, he would get schooled by Haney. The tweet is public.

We saw what happened.

The problem is that too many of you ignore flaws and only focus on the stuff you like. That's why your favorite 'eye test' fighters eventually get handled or otherwise exposed.

Like Joshua.
Like Ruiz.
Like Bektemir.
Like Bum****a.
Like Rigondeaux.
Like Teofimo.
Like Kambosos.
Like Jessie Magdaleno.
Like 'Boxing's Next Cotto' Felix Verdejo.

Etc etc etc

[Trunkoza]

And just how many fighters have we crowned as "the next" guy to dominate? And how many times has that not come to pass? You guys get on here and "love bomb" the first undefeated fighter you see, then talk crap about him when things don't go as planned.

Again, stop getting all excited about a fighter who hasn't proven himself yet. They ALL get a chance to prove themselves at some point, his time just isn't right now- there's bigger fish to fry at 147.

You can mask your foolishness with your Sweet Pea memories....I'm talking about the present moment. Too many of you are using past standards to try and define what goes on in the sport today....it's okay to grow with the times. Yes, some things do change over time, but as we've seen in boxing....not much changes when it comes to how fickle fans are.

Honestly this doesn’t make any sense. Are you insinuating that in the 2020’s, it is no longer possible to watch a fighter skills and make a realistic assessment as to if they will become elite before they fight “top talent”? Nothing changed about that at all. He watched sweet pea and knew he would be special, that doesn’t change at all. There are fighters that you can tell will be legit talents, that will go on long after we are dead and forgotten and that never changes.

[Topdogggbm]

Sean Zittel has more boxing wisdom than most fighters. Including Shawn Porter. Zittel has near perfectly predicted almost every fight outcome because he's a student of the game and a historian.

Boots has talent, but he's overrated.

I remember plenty of you on here claiming that 'CM Punk' Kambosos was elite because of his win over Teo. Before the Haney fight, I told George directly, as a fan, he would get schooled by Haney. The tweet is public.

We saw what happened.

The problem is that too many of you ignore flaws and only focus on the stuff you like. That's why your favorite 'eye test' fighters eventually get handled or otherwise exposed.

Like Joshua.
Like Ruiz.
Like Bektemir.
Like Bum****a.
Like Rigondeaux.
Like Teofimo.
Like Kambosos.
Like Jessie Magdaleno.
Like 'Boxing's Next Cotto' Felix Verdejo.

Etc etc etc

I know who he is. My point is, I don't care about anyone's thoughts when you've got ONE guy saying the opposite of the world (not that I'm saying it's wrong for someone to say what they see or feel. Not at all). Boots being elite in my opinion isn't even up for discussion. This isn't a 50/50 thing. Its like a 95/5 thing. Or 90/10. The only people that think he's overrated, are people that won't fight him or didn't fight him (like weak ass Porter), or one random dude (your boy Zitty).

Besides.... define overrated. Is he making 10 mil each fight off his name? No. Is he getting any fight he wants because of his name? No way. Myself, I believe he's right where he's supposed to be. And the haters are the ones that are going to look silly later. Because all the hate is for nothing!

[ELPacman]

Well after that ass whoopin you got from Ugas, we know you won't be fighting again.

Brah, Pacman's been KTFO from Marquez, lost a boring UD to his "rival" in Mayweather and I haven't gone no where. The fact that you had to bring that up shows this comment obviously bothered you. Well then, where Crawford at? At Crawford's age, Pacman was still blitzing the best fighters in the division yearly.

What's that? CRICKETS.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I know who he is. My point is, I don't care about anyone's thoughts when you've got ONE guy saying the opposite of the world (not that I'm saying it's wrong for someone to say what they see or feel. Not at all). Boots being elite in my opinion isn't even up for discussion. This isn't a 50/50 thing. Its like a 95/5 thing. Or 90/10. The only people that think he's overrated, are people that won't fight him or didn't fight him (like weak ass Porter), or one random dude (your boy Zitty).

Besides.... define overrated. Is he making 10 mil each fight off his name? No. Is he getting any fight he wants because of his name? No way. Myself, I believe he's right where he's supposed to be. And the haters are the ones that are going to look silly later. Because all the hate is for nothing!

You apparently weren't around when "one guy" bet huge on Buster Douglas to beat Tyson by knockout, "opposite of the world".

Just because your 'eye test' tells you thing, doesn't make it a thing.

You're fine to say IN MY OPINION, I see elite qualities.

Regardless of this, the fact remains: he's untested. And until he's tested, he's overrated.

Crawford stops him inside 9 - and people know full well I don't rate Crawford all that much given there's an asterisk next to every 147 win. Boots also is racking up asterisks, whether it's hitting behind the head (which he does a lot) or something else. But the biggest issue I see is him not defending himself. And no it's not "he doesn't need to".

The game is hit AND NOT GET HIT.

People saying Boots is the next Roy Jones - fine, then we're just waiting until he meets the modern day Lou del Valle. Because Jones was ALWAYS wide open for that shot. That's what's going to happen to Boots when he meets the wrong opponent.

As far as "other fighters" - need I remind you that almost all of them, including Floyd Mayweather, said that Choco was P4P #1 before he met Srisaket the first time. I said Srisaket was about to give that boy the business - you saw what happened. NSB said it was a fluke, Choco showed a pudgy weigh-in photo, I said he was going to get hurt in the rematch. You saw what happened.

It's not about guys looking good against scrubs. Flaws are what people should be looking for, not flash. You like the sizzle, go for it.

[Topdogggbm]

You apparently weren't around when "one guy" bet huge on Buster Douglas to beat Tyson by knockout, "opposite of the world".

Just because your 'eye test' tells you thing, doesn't make it a thing.

You're fine to say IN MY OPINION, I see elite qualities.

Regardless of this, the fact remains: he's untested. And until he's tested, he's overrated.

Crawford stops him inside 9 - and people know full well I don't rate Crawford all that much given there's an asterisk next to every 147 win. Boots also is racking up asterisks, whether it's hitting behind the head (which he does a lot) or something else. But the biggest issue I see is him not defending himself. And no it's not "he doesn't need to".

The game is hit AND NOT GET HIT.

People saying Boots is the next Roy Jones - fine, then we're just waiting until he meets the modern day Lou del Valle. Because Jones was ALWAYS wide open for that shot. That's what's going to happen to Boots when he meets the wrong opponent.

As far as "other fighters" - need I remind you that almost all of them, including Floyd Mayweather, said that Choco was P4P #1 before he met Srisaket the first time. I said Srisaket was about to give that boy the business - you saw what happened. NSB said it was a fluke, Choco showed a pudgy weigh-in photo, I said he was going to get hurt in the rematch. You saw what happened.

It's not about guys looking good against scrubs. Flaws are what people should be looking for, not flash. You like the sizzle, go for it.

But here's my problem with everything you're saying right now...... basically EVERY fighter you named in this entire post (except for Buster Douglas) IS an elite fighter! Everyone of them. If Boots name can be in the same sentence as all of them, that's an HONOR! Just some names from this list.... Tyson, Floyd, Choco, Roy, Crawford, all hall of Famers. Srisaket, not a hall of Famer, but top notch in the division. Douglas, not so much, but he's one of the most recognizable names out there.

You're talking as if Boots is worthless and sucks. Let's say your prediction is right (which I don't think it would be) and Crawford knocks Boots out in 9. Then Boots goes on to beat other great fighters as time passes. So 40-1 with a loss to a Hall of Famer is "overrated" to you?! There's more good boxers in this world than just 2 or 3 man. You're grading scale is ridiculously hard. If Crawford were to beat boots, it would be the best win on Crawfords resume by far. I would think everyone would agree with that, even you. So what does that tell you?