Paper Champions

[Neuraxis]

Maybe they mean the linear champ. The man who beat the man who beat the man. Back when they used to have, and I know it is hard to believe, ONE BELT there was only the linear champ. And in the case of abdication while being the man, the winner of the fight between number two and three at the time (usually by Ring ****zine rankings) would crown the linear champ. I am not so sure about the abdication part though. So if anyone would like to clear that up I would like to know as well.

I would agree that the linear champ or in the case that there is not a linear champ then the ring ****zine champ would be the real champ. But here's another question how does the linear champ not also always have the ring belt?

[boxernyc]

I would agree that the linear champ or in the case that there is not a linear champ then the ring ****zine champ would be the real champ. But here's another question how does the linear champ not also always have the ring belt?

Because if the number two and number three never fight when the Champ vacates, then the Ring Belt would be vacant until whoever #2 & #3 are fight. This is a big reason why there are some lower weight divisions with vacant lineal (I made the mistake of calling it linear when it is lineal, like in the line of kings and such) title. They just move up and down too much and vacate titles often. That is why Heavyweight is the easiest one to determine the lineal champ.

[Neuraxis]

Because if the number two and number three never fight when the Champ vacates, then the Ring Belt would be vacant until whoever #2 & #3 are fight. This is a big reason why there are some lower weight divisions with vacant lineal (I made the mistake of calling it linear when it is lineal, like in the line of kings and such) title. They just move up and down too much and vacate titles often. That is why Heavyweight is the easiest one to determine the lineal champ.

Does this mean that even though Virgil Hill was the light heavyweight lineal champ, he was never the Ring ****zine Champ?

[MikeHunt]

Yes, he married Violet, a girl he had been dating for years. And, she just had their kid. Okay?

No...............

[Neuraxis]

Can anyone see what I'm getting at?

[Run]

Can anyone see what I'm getting at?

I do. The only thing is, if you replace the linear champ with the "ring ****zine" champ, you might end up with Toney, RJJ, or Ruiz in that spot.



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[Neuraxis]

I do. The only thing is, if you replace the linear champ with the "ring ****zine" champ, you might end up with Toney, RJJ, or Ruiz in that spot.

Right so how was RJJ Ring ****zine Champ at LHW?

[boxernyc]

Can anyone see what I'm getting at?

The Ring belt was just restarted a couple of years ago. There was a big scandal a long time ago where the editors were caught accepting bribes and the ****zine was looked at as not being credible. So they stopped issuing their belt. I think they still did the rankings, they just weren't as up front about giving out their belts.

[Neuraxis]

not at lightheavy,

at heavy. He beat Ruiz. and Ring ****zine does a good job being ******ed, comparing fighters wins and losses.

Huh? Ruiz was never the Ring Champ at heavyweight, but RJJ was the Ring Champ at lightheavyweight.

[Kimmy]

Actually Roy Jones shouldn`t have been ring light heavyweight champ as the linar title never belonged to him. It was Daruis M ( can`t beat spell the name ) who defeated Virgil Hill in 1997 to win the WBA/IBF titles to go along with the WBO title. The real Linar champ is whom ever the WBO champ is because of the accomplishment of DM in 1997.