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    #61
    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

    It's a sport. Ultimately I want to know who is the best. I want to see a sportsman prove himself greater than his competition, and see his competition try to prove likewise. That only happens in the open category.

    The rest are for entertainment, and that's fine. I love watching lower weights but it's not the same as watching the very best fight for the ultimate title in sport.
    So you're not into knockouts, wars, and skills.

    You're a size queen?

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      #62
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

      So you're not into knockouts, wars, and skills.

      You're a size queen?
      Sounds like you should just watch highlights mate. Watch Estrada knock out that mum that stepped in the ring. Or watch Ryan Garcia's Instagram and marvel at his hand speed.

      I like to see boxing at the highest level. It's a sport - what you're talking about are just parts of what makes someone good at the sport.

      By definition you're preferring lower level fights just because there's a better chance of a highlight reel knockout? Do you not find that strange?

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        #63
        Since the introduction of day before weigh ins, I actually think the competition in the lower weight divisions has decreased.

        There is not a year which goes by, where one fighter after the fight complains 'I cannot make the weight no more' or 'I did not do the weight right, I had to drop too many pounds'.

        So I am sitting here thinking? So you are not really a 147 pound fighter are you? Hey Canelo Alvarez, you are not really a 154 pound fighter, why are you complaining over the Mayweather fight?

        What are we actually watching in the lower weight divisions these days, pure competition? Two fighters supremely conditioned, or? Two fighters that are just happy to make the weight, content that they have hit a number?

        If boxing reintroduced, the same day weigh in's 'Fighters would be in better condition, they would have less excuses. And their actual careers will be prolonged'.

        The level of skill, may not be as high in the heavyweight division. But when you watch a heavyweight fight, you know both competitors are not really inhibited. Due to it being a open class competition, this produces so many more tactical variables 'That can be altered in training'.

        Anthony Joshua for his rematch vs Usyk, can completely change his dimensions. He weighed in at 240 pounds for the first fight, but? Joshua has experience, and empirical evidence of competing at a weight of 254 pounds. Joshua for his rematch, could change his entire physiology 'Come in up to 1 stone heavier, enter the fight with a entirely different philosophy'.

        You do not quite get this in the lower weight divisions.

        It is so fascinating, how on earth is Joshua going to prepare for his rematch?



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          #64
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
          Since the introduction of day before weigh ins, I actually think the competition in the lower weight divisions has decreased.

          There is not a year which goes by, where one fighter after the fight complains 'I cannot make the weight no more' or 'I did not do the weight right, I had to drop too many pounds'.

          So I am sitting here thinking? So you are not really a 147 pound fighter are you? Hey Canelo Alvarez, you are not really a 154 pound fighter, why are you complaining over the Mayweather fight?

          What are we actually watching in the lower weight divisions these days, pure competition? Two fighters supremely conditioned, or? Two fighters that are just happy to make the weight, content that they have hit a number?

          If boxing reintroduced, the same day weigh in's 'Fighters would be in better condition, they would have less excuses. And their actual careers will be prolonged'.

          The level of skill, may not be as high in the heavyweight division. But when you watch a heavyweight fight, you know both competitors are not really inhibited. Due to it being a open class competition, this produces so many more tactical variables 'That can be altered in training'.

          Anthony Joshua for his rematch vs Usyk, can completely change his dimensions. He weighed in at 240 pounds for the first fight, but? Joshua has experience, and empirical evidence of competing at a weight of 254 pounds. Joshua for his rematch, could change his entire physiology 'Come in up to 1 stone heavier, enter the fight with a entirely different philosophy'.

          You do not quite get this in the lower weight divisions.

          It is so fascinating, how on earth is Joshua going to prepare for his rematch?


          Agree that Joshua v Usyk is compelling. All open weight fights have that element - the fighters are trying to find the perfect combination of speed, stamina, and strength to win the fight.

          Lower divisions don't have that. They're just trying to fight in the category that will give them the most advantage.
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            #65
            Originally posted by Toffee View Post

            Sounds like you should just watch highlights mate. Watch Estrada knock out that mum that stepped in the ring. Or watch Ryan Garcia's Instagram and marvel at his hand speed.

            I like to see boxing at the highest level. It's a sport - what you're talking about are just parts of what makes someone good at the sport.

            By definition you're preferring lower level fights just because there's a better chance of a highlight reel knockout? Do you not find that strange?
            Not just because there is better chance of a highlight reel knockout...don't forget that there are more Fight of the Year wars and also better skills in the lower weights too. As I have repeatedly pointed out.

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              #66
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

              Not just because there is better chance of a highlight reel knockout...don't forget that there are more Fight of the Year wars and also better skills in the lower weights too. As I have repeatedly pointed out.
              Better skills 'pound for pound'. Don't get me wrong, I watch all weights. I love a good, high level fight. I like a skillful all action featherweight bout, and a super middleweight brutal war.

              But there's something different about watching fighters competing to be the best in the world, bringing a combination of skill, size, strength, stamina, technique. That's the open category. Heavyweight Champion of the World. The best title in sport.

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