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    Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN View Post
    Why the **** do you think Ignacio was worried about Marquez bein able to bring his speed up in weight? He's a perfect featherweight, decent lightweight, now he's fighting 3lbs away from full Welterweight. Carrying too much muscle on your body will slow you down no matter what. lol You got to be a god damn fool to think Marquez is going to come in exactly like he did in the Diaz fight. Part of Marquez's training has been gaining weight, while TRYING to remain quick. lol Just cause he's 143 in a Diaz fight, doesn't mean he's gonna be a mirror image in this welterweight fight. Even in the Casamayor fight, Marquez was less sharp and more sluggish than he's ever been. He sharpened up for the Diaz fight though, now he's moving up again. Just the fact alone that you think it's gonna be "all good" for Marquez before even seeing him at 144 is flat out dumb. The risk Marquez is taking by moving up this much is beyond obvious.
    did you think Marquez was quick enough when he faced Pacquiao the second time around, at 130?
    he weighed 141lbs on fight night for that fight. I dont think 3 lbs is going to kill him.

    weve seen him at 144lbs. thats what he weighed when he fought Diaz.

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      Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
      seriously. yall are getting ridiculous with this, and I dont even like Mayweather that much. yes, Mayweather has the size advantage, but Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff and is fighting one of the most skilled fighters today. not to mention the fight is at 144lbs, and Marquez weighed in on fight night at about that weight anyway against Diaz...

      Is it the biggest challenge for Floyd? no. Is it a compelling fight with two incredibly skilled fighters in it? you bet your ass it is.

      you wah wahs bitching about the weight sound like the same ones who were whining about how DLH was 'cherry picking' a 'flyweight', and that it was a mismatch and a joke of a matchup because Pacquiao would be so small that he would evaporate from the first semi-hard punch.
      boy oh boy, you guys sure were right.

      yall need to wake up realise this is boxing. size is only one factor in a large pool of other ones. and the size disadvantage for Marquez is highly overdone anyway, yall act like Floyd is 20lbs heavier than Marquez when they probably wont weigh more than 6lbs apart from one another on fight night
      green k sent

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        Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        this fight is a mismatch. jmm has no business fighting at WW.
        and Pac has no business fighting a WW

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          Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
          did you think Marquez was quick enough when he faced Pacquiao the second time around, at 130?
          he weighed 141lbs on fight night for that fight. I dont think 3 lbs is going to kill him.

          weve seen him at 144lbs. thats what he weighed when he fought Diaz.
          lol Dude, filling out to 141lbs in a 130lb fight is not the same as filling out to 144lbs. You shouldn't even neeed me to tell you that, just use your ****in eyes. At 130 you fill out to lean and quick fighter, anything above that perfect weight for Marquez you can expect him to slow down somewhat. I mean the fact Fraud wouldn't settle for 140lb fight and tried to get as close to 147 as he could, tells you he's lookin for an edge. lol It's ****in pathetic cause Marquez is a featherweight, and Fraud still needs all the edge he can get.

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            Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            yes


            we are talking about athletes not couch potatoes.


            yes, but jmm will be 2 divisions above his current fighting weight. imho, jmm was his most effective at 130 lbs!



            yeah, but usually those fighters occupy the same division.
            Your a bull****ter Pull I used to think your were a clued poster your not .

            Is 4lbs too much ,,,,,, then you tell me who Floyd should fight in your book and then we will look at the weight ,,,, come on dont run away now .

            If he is 2 divisions away from his current fight weight , thats been the case with JMM for 2 yrs as he has weighed the same on fight night last 3 fights ,
            so he was most effective at 130 ,,, well guess what so was Floyd , your a hater Pull full of double standards not the unbiased poster you make out to be .

            Dont forget to tell us who you think Floyd should fight ,,, a name ?

            .

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              Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
              did you think Marquez was quick enough when he faced Pacquiao the second time around, at 130?
              yes because he wasn't trying to put on muscle and get bigger.

              he weighed 141lbs on fight night for that fight. I dont think 3 lbs is going to kill him.
              jmm changed his training. he's doing alot of strength training and putting on muscle. that is gonna effect jmm's speed and reflexes. we don't know wow heavy jmm will come in on fight night and we don't know how well JMM will perform at WW.
              weve seen him at 144lbs. thats what he weighed when he fought Diaz.
              like I've said, jmm has changed his training regiment. no one knows how the weight will effect him.

              IT'S FALSE TO THINK THAT JMM WILL BE THE SAME AT 147 LBS AS HE WAS AT 135 LBS.

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                Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
                Your a bull****ter Pull I used to think your were a clued poster your not .
                false. i'm not bull****ting you

                Is 4lbs too much ,,,,,,
                the lbs don't matter, the problem is jmm has never fought above lightweight.

                then you tell me who Floyd should fight in your book and then we will look at the weight ,,,, come on dont run away now .
                mosley

                If he is 2 divisions away from his current fight weight , thats been the case with JMM for 2 yrs as he has weighed the same on fight night last 3 fights ,
                so he was most effective at 130 ,,, well guess what so was Floyd , your a hater Pull full of double standards not the unbiased poster you make out to be .
                I'm talking about weight divisions, not fight night weights. don't get it twisted.

                Dont forget to tell us who you think Floyd should fight ,,, a name ?
                mosley or cotto

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                  How comes its okay for Pacquiao to fight Cotto at 147 but not Marquez v Mayweather at 144(3 POUNDS LIGHTER CAN I ADD!). Cottohuggers piss me off something rotten, get over the fact Floyd is more skilled than your man and stop making ****** pops at Floyd.

                  And don't use the excuse (Pacquiao has beaten up guys bigger than him in his last two fights, Marquez has not). GIVE MARQUEZ A CHANCE. If all this mocking the fight was after the fight i could accept it, but not before. What are all these idiots going to say if Marquez pulls of an upset?

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                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    false. i'm not bull****ting you


                    the lbs don't matter, the problem is jmm has never fought above lightweight.


                    mosley


                    I'm talking about weight divisions, not fight night weights. don't get it twisted.


                    mosley or cotto
                    Mosley or Cotto will both be more than 10 pounds bigger (heavier )than Floyd on the night , didnt you just claim 4lbs is too much for a fair fight ,,, there is absolute proof of your double standard .

                    I know your talking weight divisions ,and ignoring that that dont actually weigh that when they fight .

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                      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN View Post
                      lol Dude, filling out to 141lbs in a 130lb fight is not the same as filling out to 144lbs. You shouldn't even neeed me to tell you that, just use your ****in eyes. At 130 you fill out to lean and quick fighter, anything above that perfect weight for Marquez you can expect him to slow down somewhat. I mean the fact Fraud wouldn't settle for 140lb fight and tried to get as close to 147 as he could, tells you he's lookin for an edge. lol It's ****in pathetic cause Marquez is a featherweight, and Fraud still needs all the edge he can get.
                      sorry, youre delusional. if anything, cutting the weight and putting it back on overnight would hurt you. walking around at that same exact weight and not having to worry about getting down to 130lbs would probably be healthier.

                      Even if your scenario is true, couldnt Marquez just do exactly what he did for Pacquiao 2, and end up being at the 144 weight anyway?

                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      yes because he wasn't trying to put on muscle and get bigger.


                      jmm changed his training. he's doing alot of strength training and putting on muscle. that is gonna effect jmm's speed and reflexes. we don't know wow heavy jmm will come in on fight night and we don't know how well JMM will perform at WW.
                      if he does do all youre saying, then thats his own fault. he didnt need to gain any weight to be 144lbs. its a training flaw/a bad strategy, not a necessity to put on weight to make the contract limit.
                      like I've said, jmm has changed his training regiment. no one knows how the weight will effect him.

                      IT'S FALSE TO THINK THAT JMM WILL BE THE SAME AT 147 LBS AS HE WAS AT 135 LBS.
                      its at 144 lbs.
                      hes fights at that weight for his 135 fights.

                      why would he be any worse of a fighter.
                      144-144=0. there is no change! wow!
                      its weird that yall cant grasp that.

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