Anyone who says Mayweather vs Marquez is an illegitimate fight is an idiot

[fdotorres]

Ummm you do know they barely fought last year and it damn well wasnt any demolishment by Pacman's hands? Lol

you do know that marquez has been struggling at 135 and has never fought north of that weight? lol

[The Gambler1981]

i agree. Smaller doesnt mean you automatically gonna lose. lol ! I think the biggest b!tch about fight...{i know for me is} Is that JMM is in uncharted waters. I dont think we would be having this discussion if he has proven himself in the higher weight classes.

Are there not question marks surrounding Floyd aswell, the layoff, the injury and Floyd getting older (and how he will react to that).

JMM is shooting for the stars no doubt and he could very well come up short but he is not the only one with question marks comming in.

[FLY TY]

seriously. yall are getting ridiculous with this, and I dont even like Mayweather that much. yes, Mayweather has the size advantage, but Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff and is fighting one of the most skilled fighters today. not to mention the fight is at 144lbs, and Marquez weighed in on fight night at about that weight anyway against Diaz...

Is it the biggest challenge for Floyd? no. Is it a compelling fight with two incredibly skilled fighters in it? you bet your ass it is.

you wah wahs bitching about the weight sound like the same ones who were whining about how DLH was 'cherry picking' a 'flyweight', and that it was a mismatch and a joke of a matchup because Pacquiao would be so small that he would evaporate from the first semi-hard punch.
boy oh boy, you guys sure were right.

yall need to wake up realise this is boxing. size is only one factor in a large pool of other ones. and the size disadvantage for Marquez is highly overdone anyway, yall act like Floyd is 20lbs heavier than Marquez when they probably wont weigh more than 6lbs apart from one another on fight night

i could care less what the haters on this site say....

all the fighters, experts, trainers, and commentators i have heard talk about this fight w/ intrigue.....both guys will be coming into this fight w/ advantages and disadvantages. it's only b/c of floyd's tremendous skill that no one gives marquez much of a chance to win, but the haters will say floyd has some kind of "huge" weight advantage....SMH

[Steak]

i agree. Smaller doesnt mean you automatically gonna lose. lol ! I think the biggest b!tch about fight...{i know for me is} Is that JMM is in uncharted waters. I dont think we would be having this discussion if he has proven himself in the higher weight classes.

I can agree with that. what people dont take into consideration is that just because a guy has not been tested there doesnt mean hes **** there.

lets go back. pac was a bum with 2 KO loses at 115 pounds... SO?

we're talking present here. marquez struggled against an old great that almost lost to katsidis and had to rob a decision before that. while he did that, paz was demolishing people higher up

did he fight OLDH? yes, but that 130 pounder did to him what nobody had done to him in his entire career

there's no way to say that the gap between marquez and pac at WW is close

point is, just because he hasnt proven himself at that weight yet doesnt mean that he cant or that hes **** at the weight.
most people would think that the Pacquiao that fought Marquez(2) couldnt hang with most the Welterweights, yet here is as a favorite against the #2 WW in the world.

you guys are so fickle, and always assume that going up in weight=huge disadvantage. these days with the day after weigh ins, its way easier jump around weight classes than it was back in the day.

besides, Pacquiao didnt look like that much of a force against David Diaz at 135 anyway. David Diaz struggled against a nobody the fight before Pac and got a gift over a shot Morales, but it still took Pacquiao a bunch of rounds to stop him.

I dont think Marquez can move up in weight as good as Pacquiao, but that doesnt mean hes **** or that he magically loses all his skill at a higher weight

[fdotorres]

point is, just because he hasnt proven himself at that weight yet doesnt mean that he cant or that hes **** at the weight.
most people would think that the Pacquiao that fought Marquez(2) couldnt hang with most the Welterweights, yet here is as a favorite against the #2 WW in the world.

you guys are so fickle, and always assume that going up in weight=huge disadvantage. these days with the day after weigh ins, its way easier jump around weight classes than it was back in the day.

besides, Pacquiao didnt look like that much of a force against David Diaz at 135 anyway. David Diaz struggled against a nobody the fight before Pac and got a gift over a shot Morales, but it still took Pacquiao a bunch of rounds to stop him.

I dont think Marquez can move up in weight as good as Pacquiao, but that doesnt mean hes **** or that he magically loses all his skill at a higher weight

marquez looked bad against casamayor most of the fight. he was almost down against juan diaz, a light fisted fighter. how many rounds did you see pac lose against david diaz?

[Konstantin]

Are there not question marks surrounding Floyd aswell, the layoff, the injury and Floyd getting older (and how he will react to that).

JMM is shooting for the stars no doubt and he could very well come up short but he is not the only one with question marks comming in.

Please the questions surrounding Floyd are minimal. He may take a couple rounds to shake off his ring rust but it's not like he's in there with the biggest challenge in the division. Vitali came off of 4 years and worse injuries to win his championship fight. He has been training to keep sharp no doubt and Floyd is still much younger than JMM.

Floyd has every advantage over Marquez, there's no way he's losing this fight.

And to whoever was dismissing Cotto and Clottey... You're a dumbass. Both of them are better fighters at WW than JMM and would be more meaningful than a fight with JMM.

[Steak]

marquez looked bad against casamayor most of the fight. he was almost down against juan diaz, a light fisted fighter. how many rounds did you see pac lose against david diaz?

Casamayor and Juan Diaz are both better than David Diaz. no, dont start with me, David was struggling with this guy got a gift over shot Morales, was getting schooled by Santa Cruz before landing a freak left uppercut and even before that couldnt even beat this guy

yet Marquez knocked Diaz out quicker than Pacquiao knocked Dave out.

is my argument that Marquez is better than Pacquiao about 130? NOPE. In fact, I disagree with that completely.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT MARQUEZ IS MAGICALLY TERRIBLE AND LOSES ALL HIS SKILL JUST BECAUSE HES FIGHTING A GUY THAT IS ABOUT 6LBS HEAVIER THAN HIM AND IS COMING OFF A 2 YEAR LAYOFF.

you people just cant get it through your head! its like yall dont want to enjoy intriguing matchups and excellent undercards.

[Ekscape]

i said carried and improved, not changed. he's basically the same guy with much more power, fighting much slower people because he's as fast as he was before

if they ever fight a rubber match at JWW or a WW catchweight, marquez would get obliterated

Why is that though you're not explaining... They both weighed over 140 in their last fight and if they fight again they're gonna fight at 140... Pac is still the same fighter this year as last year, i'm not saying that in a bad way he was great last year and great this year... But this new and improved Pacquiao over the last two fights I dont see it?

[The Gambler1981]

Please the questions surrounding Floyd are minimal. He may take a couple rounds to shake off his ring rust but it's not like he's in there with the biggest challenge in the division. Vitali came off of 4 years and worse injuries to win his championship fight. He has been training to keep sharp no doubt and Floyd is still much younger than JMM.

Floyd has every advantage over Marquez, there's no way he's losing this fight.

And to whoever was dismissing Cotto and Clottey... You're a dumbass. Both of them are better fighters at WW than JMM and would be more meaningful than a fight with JMM.

They are still question marks, I would also say JMM>Samuel Peter (especially the fatass version Vitali fought, not taking anything away from Vitali though as he is an excellent fighter and comming back like that over any top guy is impressive).

If Floyd is the Floyd we all remember he should win rather easily at that but I have question about whether he is the same guy even though he is a gym rat and is not a partier. To me floyd should age like a fine wine, but that does nto really mean that he will.

I think JMM is a greater fighter then Cotto and for sure Clottey, those guys would be bigger challenges for Floyd but I would rather see two guys who I veiw as great duke it out no matter the weights then a great fighter fight a very good bigger fighter.

[fdotorres]

Why is that though you're not explaining... They both weighed over 140 in their last fight and if they fight again they're gonna fight at 140... Pac is still the same fighter this year as last year, i'm not saying that in a bad way he was great last year and great this year... But this new and improved Pacquiao over the last two fights I dont see it?

he's not new, just improved. he's faster than anyone at 147 and stronger than anyone at 140

what does marquez have that puts him above anyone at 140 and 147?