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    Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
    they think cotto did something special with his resume.

    cotto has been protected his whole career.

    the only time he hasn't been protected was the past year.

    he had no choice but to fight marg to unify.

    he had no choice but to fight clottey because he needed a big win to get a superfight with pacquiao.

    aside from those , his opponents were handpicked.

    they picked shane because everyone thought shane was washed up and shane was coming back down from 154.

    they fought zab because zab was on a 3 fight winless streak.

    people have selective memories.
    Why couldn't Cotto have a career defining win against the three best WWs he faced? He got knocked out in one, the opionion on the Clottey fight is split, and he got a razor thin win against Mosley. Cotto doesn't have one career defining win where people can say he fought a very good fighter and outclassed him.

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      Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
      Nearly enough? He's not a HOF in my book. He's still close.
      he'll get in the hof.

      the hof is not that hard to get in to tbh.

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        Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
        Margarito is not A level.

        Winky Wright at that stage was not A level. I'm not here to **** on P Will though, I like him.

        Mosley never hurt Cotto either. So many things wrong with that post.

        Anyway...Cotto is not a HOF yet. He's damn close. Not only has he beaten good names, but he's been in classic fights. If he would have beaten Marg I'd say he would have been because at that point he would have cleaned out a division.

        Off the top of my head Cuevas and Qawi are both less talented than Cotto, probably not as accomplished either.
        Whats so great about beating Margarito? Williams beat him very clearly, Santos beat him, and Mosley destroyed him. Cotto was a 2-1 favorite for a reason, almost everyone expected a Cotto win and he couldn't do it.

        Also Winky Wright is a formadible oppoenent and gave Hopkins a good fight. P Will dominated him for 12 rounds. A feat Cotto is yet to accomplish againsta top fighter. You think Williams would arguable lose to Clottey or get TKOed by Margarito?

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          Originally posted by El Dominicano. View Post
          It isn't so much hate but hypocrisy. A good example of this, unofficial weight doesn't aply to Pacquiao/ Marquez but it sure as hell applies to Cotto (We've seen his sig). Pull is a notorious hypocrite and he doesn't do a good job of hiding it.

          Pull, dime se hablo mentiras?

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            Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            name your 20 so people can pick it apart.
            if you can successfully pick apart the first 3 i will list 17 more. give me a good, solid argument stating that those guys deserve to be in the HOF more than cotto.

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              Originally posted by street bully View Post
              Why couldn't Cotto have a career defining win against the three best WWs he faced? He got knocked out in one, the opionion on the Clottey fight is split, and he got a razor thin win against Mosley. Cotto doesn't have one career defining win where people can say he fought a very good fighter and outclassed him.
              i like cotto. he's a good fighter. he has a decent enough resume.

              he's nothing special or great though like some make him out to be.



              name me that one fight you've seen of cotto that made you say , "wow! this guy is great! i don't see anyone beating this guy."

              every great fighter has had a moment like that. in fact most good fighters have a moment/time in their career where people said that.

              hell! there was a time when everyone thought judah was the next great thing.

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                Originally posted by street bully View Post
                A clear cut comanding win over Mosley, Margarito and a 154 belt holder would make him HOF bound.
                Most of the people who vote for the Hall had Cotto winning close but clear. This thing about the Mosley fight being a robbery is spoken by Cotto haters and Mosely fans only. He doesn't need to fight Shane again. he doesn't even need to beat Margarito again. He just needs to keep racking up wins against good competition. I don't think he'll beat Pac though, so I don't know where he goes from there. he'll probably end up like Forrest, Quartey, Vargas, Castillo, Chico, Casa, etc. - the fighters from the era who deserve to be in the hall of very good.

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                  Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
                  Margarito is not A level.

                  Winky Wright at that stage was not A level. I'm not here to **** on P Will though, I like him.

                  Mosley never hurt Cotto either. So many things wrong with that post.

                  Anyway...Cotto is not a HOF yet. He's damn close. Not only has he beaten good names, but he's been in classic fights. If he would have beaten Marg I'd say he would have been because at that point he would have cleaned out a division.

                  Off the top of my head Cuevas and Qawi are both less talented than Cotto, probably not as accomplished either.
                  Paul's win over Winky Wright is better than Cotto's win over Mosley. And I'm saying this as someone who likes Mosley a lot better than Winky.

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                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    did ruiz actually beat champs to get belts or did he pic up vacant belts?
                    ruiz has WON a belt off a defending champion if that's what you're asking.

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                      Originally posted by street bully View Post
                      Why couldn't Cotto have a career defining win against the three best WWs he faced? He got knocked out in one, the opionion on the Clottey fight is split, and he got a razor thin win against Mosley. Cotto doesn't have one career defining win where people can say he fought a very good fighter and outclassed him.
                      sad but true.

                      Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
                      Margarito is not A level.
                      and yet he made cotto quit.
                      Winky Wright at that stage was not A level. I'm not here to **** on P Will though, I like him.
                      it was an old inactive winky, but it was winky nonetheless.
                      Mosley never hurt Cotto either. So many things wrong with that post.
                      i think mosley hurt cotto in the middle rounds, but it wasn't a chicken dance like he did against judah or torres.

                      Anyway...Cotto is not a HOF yet. He's damn close.
                      agreed

                      Not only has he beaten good names, but he's been in classic fights. If he would have beaten Marg I'd say he would have been because at that point he would have cleaned out a division.
                      except for clottey and pwill

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