Comments Thread For: Fury Overcomes Two Knockdowns, Drops Wilder Three Times For Knockout in Eleven

[Boxing-1013]

Maybe. Maybe not. Wouldn't really know unless they step in the ring against each other. Wilder has reach and power but he isn't as skilled.

I feel like people were saying the same things when Wilder went to face Breazeale. Maybe we will find out. To be fair though I don't know what Wilder will have left now. 2 pretty brutal fights for him, and he is 35

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Lol, stop crying.

I hate it when you soy boys sip wine coolers and try to flirt. Such a bore. Go away.

[LoadedWraps]

You make some good points! I don't know how much things change but Wilder has always been so lacking in base fundamentals. My own feeling is that his body attack was a diversion to get Fury's hands down. His jab and bidding his time later, so that he could have spurts and throw good punches. I would have told Wilder after the fourth round, to stay away from Fury, and when he had his wind, just throw bombs... hit Fury anywhere.... Marciano style... the arms, the hip, anywhere. And yes to clinch and to practice defense responsibilty.

It was a good approach, going to the body early with jabs. It's often a slept on tactic. Fury had to figure him out through the 1st round again and you could tell Wilder surprised him by being more methodical. The cream usually rises to the top though and we saw Fury show who he is - a warrior. Wilder at one point in the championship rounds did go for broke and let his hands go in bunches, but he couldn't land that death blow.

It was an incredible fight, the crowd was on their feet throughout, like something out of a 50s barn burner. Honesty I haven't seen a crowd that fired up since maybe Maidana/Broner or Froch/Bute. Or maybe even Tyson/Holyfield. I was on my feet and at one point praying out loud that Wilder doesn't land a nuclear blast down the stretch.



Fury seemed gassed, he usually doesn't, and he wasn't as sharp defensively, honestly probably due to Covid, both actual, and the impact of being unable to train as before.

[billeau2]

It was a good approach, going to the body early with jabs. It's often a slept on tactic. Fury had to figure him out through the 1st round again and you could tell Wilder surprised him by being more methodical. The cream usually rises to the top though and we saw Fury show who he is - a warrior. Wilder at one point in the championship rounds did go for broke and let his hands go in bunches, but he couldn't land that death blow.

It was an incredible fight, the crowd was on their feet throughout, like something out of a 50s barn burner. Honesty I haven't seen a crowd that fired up since maybe Maidana/Broner or Froch/Bute. Or maybe even Tyson/Holyfield. I was on my feet and at one point praying out loud that Wilder doesn't land a nuclear blast down the stretch.



Fury seemed gassed, he usually doesn't, and he wasn't as sharp defensively, honestly probably due to Covid, both actual, and the impact of being unable to train as before.

Hey my East Bay brother! Thats great you got to see the fight with others. Did you go to the fight? I so miss times past when you could go to the Mission and find a local dive bar that had the fights... And boxing wonders why its hard to get a fan base lol.

Yeah it was a great effort, people told Wilder to accept defeat and he came and I would say, redeemed himself. Fury was imo too heavy. Thats too much weight to carry though I am sympathetic to his desire to pack a punch.

Wilder broke his hand... and this is something that unfortunately is just not looked at carefully enough. Trainers should know that if you are a puncher, you need the protection... I well remember being a bouncer at the DNA Lounge South of Market and seeing so many broken hands when guys punched each other and were used to gloves...

With the broken hand Wilder did what he could... Great fight indeed!

[MoneyKasha]

Those were absolutely bad counts, definitely very long. 5-6 seconds past between the ref saying 5 and 6. That definitely helped Fury big time.

But Wilder was slow from round 1. I am not entirely sure how Fury took so long to KO him. Wilder was in slow motion from the start. Part of me thinks Fury was showing compassion and not going hard on purpose. Another part of me just sees that maybe they were both fatigued and that’s why Fury did not go for it when Wilder looked like he was out. But Wilder showed it and Fury did not. Wilder damn near had his gas tank on display like a video game. Like you can see his energy bar there in red. Fury, if he was fatigued, he knows how to hide it.

Anyway, I don’t think the long count would have changed the outcome of the fight.

Stop making excuses... wilder had a long count In the 3rd as well

[Roberto Vasquez]

I never said he was an ATG- I’m mocking people who say ‘if he beats AJ and Usyk he will be.’ He is the best heavyweight for sure . I’m convinced Wilder is or was the 2nd best. Your opinion may differ and that is fine . I can’t think of anyone that would have a chance against Fury right now. And trust me, I wanted wilder to win

Ok fair enough. But why say you can't see anyone beating Fury when Wilder almost just stopped him twice. Wilder has only beaten an old Ortiz in the top-10. Fury has only beaten one top-10 HW in almost 6 years. If these guys are so good - why such poor opposition?

I'd give Fury and WIlder all the props in the world when they are beating top guys. That's why I like AJ because he actually fights top-10 opponents almost every fight. I used to be a big Fury fan until he started dodging people. I hope Wilder now gets some confidence from this and starts fighting the top guys too. I'm not a tribal guy, I give respect to a boxer who deserves it

[LoadedWraps]

Hey my East Bay brother! Thats great you got to see the fight with others. Did you go to the fight? I so miss times past when you could go to the Mission and find a local dive bar that had the fights... And boxing wonders why its hard to get a fan base lol.

Yeah it was a great effort, people told Wilder to accept defeat and he came and I would say, redeemed himself. Fury was imo too heavy. Thats too much weight to carry though I am sympathetic to his desire to pack a punch.

Wilder broke his hand... and this is something that unfortunately is just not looked at carefully enough. Trainers should know that if you are a puncher, you need the protection... I well remember being a bouncer at the DNA Lounge South of Market and seeing so many broken hands when guys punched each other and were used to gloves...

With the broken hand Wilder did what he could... Great fight indeed!

The lounge.



Good times.

I actually ordered the PPV and was commenting on the live crowd. I miss those days too, always frustrating when you can't find a bar with the fights...I'll reach out to catch up soon brother, stay safe.

Wilder will bounce back, this only made him stronger. The division is red hot, we have some great fights ahead of us, I'm sure of it.

[Mgrove77]

Ok fair enough. But why say you can't see anyone beating Fury when Wilder almost just stopped him twice. Wilder has only beaten an old Ortiz in the top-10. Fury has only beaten one top-10 HW in almost 6 years. If these guys are so good - why such poor opposition?

I'd give Fury and WIlder all the props in the world when they are beating top guys. That's why I like AJ because he actually fights top-10 opponents almost every fight. I used to be a big Fury fan until he started dodging people. I hope Wilder now gets some confidence from this and starts fighting the top guys too. I'm not a tribal guy, I give respect to a boxer who deserves it

Wilder had ten title defenses- the WBC is the most competitive of the belts so he fought who he had to. I’m saying that wilder and Fury are elite heavyweights - the others lag far behind . I mean Ruiz ranked top 5? That is comical. As for AJ- you say he beat top fighters (Parker and Whyte). Would you rather right those two ‘top ten’ or Fury and Ortiz like wilder did. Don’t underestimate Ortiz, he hits very hard and has a very unique style . Also, AJ quit in one fight and literally got his ass beat against Usyk. I mean it wasn’t even close

[MoneyKasha]

Boom!

The long knock down count excuses will come up.

Wilder had long counts too

[MoneyKasha]

Wow! What a fight! Fury got his 1st legit win against the Never Die Bronze Bomber! It’s just too bad Wilder bought into the bulked up weight lifting adrenaline rush that Joshua has been catching in the weight room for his entire career.

Wilder was out on his feet from the 1st round, and his fatigue status was something Scott The Strategic (who did a GREAT job strategically) would have no answer for endurance wise.

Also, equally it was Wilders warrior spirit that helped take his newly formed useless mass of muscle to the 11th round.

Two fights in a row Wilder has been uncharacteristically lethargic - it seems that he’s also bought into the weight gain muscle thing…..I was always of the opinion that 99% of ‘boxers’ knew that heavy lifting was an oxygen depriving method of training when you get in that ring.

I’ll always root against Fury for his prior cheating tactics against Wilder - I’ll never be a fan of his, because it was blatant and and absolutely ‘cheating’ ridiculous. Big props to this no nonsense ref who made this fight get to the 11th round, whereas the last ref was clueless to Fury’s open palm glove and orca lean headlock blatant cheating.

Fury is a good fighter (and it’s something I’ve never denied) and he knows all about conditioning (at least Its something I think he’s aware of) But whether he knows or not is irrelevant - he cheated in his two past fights against Wilder, and I hope there are consequences - hopefully Usyk embarrasses his cheating ass - which I think he will.

You can’t rely on cheating then take on a guy like Usyk and win. Especially if your fake confidence level has been on the conniving level all along. Plus Fury’s deluded take on religion had hidden his cheating even more……I’m rooting for his downfall (only in the ring though), he needs a taste of his own conniving medicine - he DESERVES two legit losses…. Wilder & Joshua need boxing conditioning coaches, and they need to believe in them…..Wilder/Joshua is a 50/50 fight (only now) because they both wanna be like Arnold.

Weak men make excuses. Strong men admit their defeat. Fury won fair the 2nd fight and won the 3rd. Straight dominated