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    #51
    Originally posted by Bigchip View Post
    Let’s cut the excuses fanboys. Spence Jr will be back and better than ever. Just like he said. So when he loses, I don’t want to hear excuses about the eye or the accident. The better man will have beaten him.
    My best bet. Once he returns, and if he can return.. He'll be B rating fighter at best. Maybe he can beat B, C plus to D types of fighters. He will never be the same.. Sorry to burst your bubble.. The guy is fragile now.

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      #52
      Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

      You don't have to be a doctor to see the symptoms. We will know more as Spence's future unfolds, but it's not looking that great for him.
      Perhaps, but let's leave it in the hands of the specialists is all I'm saying and we can wish the guy a speedy recovery. Too many people's quick to put a guy down. I'm not even a die-hard Spence fan, the guy just needs cut some slack. I'm sure he's pissed off also .

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        #53
        I'm an ESJ fan but a boxing fan foremost, but according to some reports, the eye issue was caught by a private doctor that ESJ personally sought out. Interesting that on the PBC Fight Camp there was nothing mentioned about ESJ having an eye issue. The diagnoses didn't come from Nevada's Commission but from ESJ's team. I believe I smell something and it appears to be p*s*y.
        Last edited by mmboxer; 08-16-2021, 02:13 PM.
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          #54
          Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post

          My best bet. Once he returns, and if he can return.. He'll be B rating fighter at best. Maybe he can beat B, C plus to D types of fighters. He will never be the same.. Sorry to burst your bubble.. The guy is fragile now.
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          Someone like you said the same thing about Sugar Ray Leonard after he had the same kind of surgery. And just like you, once Spence makes a full recovery and beats up the top guys, we’ll never hear from you again.

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            #55
            surprised that such an injury could be asymptomatic and could've only been detected by a routine test. But it seems legit now and hopefully Spence could recover soon and be back to fighting without being in danger of losing sight.



            Meanwhile let's hope Pacquiao manages to get past Ugas, which is an extremely dangerous fight for him, so that we can see him fight Spence or Crawford sometime next year before he retires.
            Last edited by Dip_Slide; 08-16-2021, 06:37 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

              Uncle Tom? Why because Bernard questioned a situation that popped up out of nowhere without context or scientific corroboration? Really? Taking into account the sleazy history and nature of boxing...labeling Hopkins an uncle Tom because of his skepticism seems a little ignorant.
              Labels aside, Hopkins should have been the last one to talk after the **** he pulled in the first Dawson fight.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury View Post
                It's comical hearing the shoulder doe crowd acting like Spence's retina tear is a conspiracy to duck Pacquiao.
                how does your own shiiet taste it???

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
                  If this didn't involve a Pbc fighter and Pacfanboys nobody would question this.

                  Spence known for doing hard sparring and we all know training is more dangerous than fighting.

                  Oh well let these guys entertain themselves......
                  if it was manny, yall would have skinned him alive. so just stop it.

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                    #59
                    PBC are shameless crooked they just ruined the Castano undisputed win a few weeks ago. Spence has been ducking Crawford and Thurman for years but he would not duck Pac? Everything about the situation says DUCK: Spence training like a girl weeks out from the fight, Ugas opponent injures himself at perfect time, not enough money to go around to pay Pac and Spence and make a profit.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                      Someone like you said the same thing about Sugar Ray Leonard after he had the same kind of surgery. And just like you, once Spence makes a full recovery and beats up the top guys, we’ll never hear from you again.
                      Yeah took SRL 3 years to get back at the saddle..

                      Was he the same fighter?

                      Kevin Howard Knocked him down on the 4th.. SRL won his return fight but got hurt bad, and anouncing his retirement again..

                      You can have an argument SRL bounced back.. but I will always believe the past 1982 SRL will always be better than the comeback SRL.

                      If Spence comes back after a year or 2-3 yrs.. That rust and fighters mental psyche will never be the same..

                      Car crash will linger on.. Spence will never be the same..

                      Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall...



                      Leonard had surgery to repair the retina on May 9, 1982.

                      On November 9, 1982, Leonard invited and other dignitaries to a charity event in to hear him announce whether he would continue his career. Standing in a boxing ring with , the master of ceremonies, Leonard announced his retirement, saying a bout with Hagler would unfortunately never happen. Leonard maintained his eye was fully healed, but that he just didn't want to box anymore.

                      Missing the limelight and the competition, Leonard announced in December 1983 that he was returning to the ring. Leonard boasted that he would have a couple of ten-round bouts and then take on , , Durán, Hearns and finally Hagler. This decision was met with a torrent of criticism from fans and the media, who felt Leonard was taking unnecessary risks with his surgically repaired eye.

                      A bout with Philadelphia's Kevin Howard, who was 20–4–1, was scheduled for February 25, 1984. The fight was postponed when Leonard had minor surgery on his right eye to fix a loose retina. This latest eye problem further fueled the flames of those who opposed Leonard's comeback.

                      Before the fight with Howard, Dave Jacobs rejoined Leonard's team in a limited role. Jacobs had quit in 1980, disagreeing with Leonard's decision to have an immediate rematch with Durán.

                      Leonard and Howard fought on May 11, 1984, in . Howard knocked Leonard flat on his back in the fourth round. It was the first knockdown of Leonard's professional career. Leonard came back to stop Howard in the ninth round, but the stoppage was disputed, with some feeling that the referee stopped the fight prematurely. Leonard was ahead on all three scorecards at the time of the stoppage. At the post-fight press conference, Leonard surprised everyone by announcing his retirement again, saying he just didn't have it anymore.

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