Originally posted by JM1
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Pacquiao is impresive;Hopkins is BORING!-Roy Jones Jr.
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I don't think Hopkins has passed Roy. He has stayed at a world class level higher but he has still only been champ in 2 divisions, he hasn't fought more ATGs or anything, and how soon people forget Roy won titles at 4 weights, including heavyweight. While Hopkins was cleaning out middleweight Roy was cleaning out light heavyweight, so that's a wash.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostDominated by Roy, street cred and rapping is irrelevant and shows you are digging deep for ways Hopkins can be considered better, defenses of middleweight title are irrelevant because he lost to Roy who proceeded to move up and fight one of the best P4P fighters in the world and destroy him rather than stay and fight nobodies at middleweight.
Seriously, the only thing Hopkins has on Roy is chin and aging well. Roy was better at everything else and accomplished more than Hopkins without question.
street cred and rapping is clearly a joke buddy..............Roy dominating a green BHOP didnt happen but RJJ did win..............defense of middleweight aint irrelevant...............ROY did fight his share of bums too.............
you prefer flashy athletic fighters.........i can respect that.........but ROY accomplishing more than BHOP isnt without question............why take away BHOPS chin and consistency???.......thats like taking away RJJs speed and athleticism....
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Originally posted by strugler View Poststreet cred and rapping is clearly a joke buddy..............Roy dominating a green BHOP didnt happen but RJJ did win..............defense of middleweight aint irrelevant...............ROY did fight his share of bums too.............
you prefer flashy athletic fighters.........i can respect that.........but ROY accomplishing more than BHOP isnt without question............why take away BHOPS chin and consistency???.......thats like taking away RJJs speed and athleticism....
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Originally posted by strugler View PostBHOP did go up in weight.................and did an impressive job......
he went up to the weight he started fighting at.
hopkins turned pro at 175.
he beat antonio tarver a natural 175 guy. that was a good win.
lost to joe calzaghe. NOT a 175 guy.
beat winky right at a catchweight in the light heavyweight division.
beat kelly pavlik also at a catchweight at light heavyweight.
in his last 4 fights in the light heavyweight division , he beat ONE light heavyweight.
he fought a super middleweight fighting for the first time at light heavy , a middleweight and a super welterweight.
viva bernard hopkins! he is legend!
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostNot taking away his chin and consistency, just saying that's the only thing Hopkins has on Roy Jones. Bottom line is prime Roy would beat any version of Hopkins you can throw at him. Roy did fight bums, it happens when you stay at one division for a long time, there are only so many great fighters you can fight in a division before there are none left, a problem both Roy and Bernard faced. Roy spent most his career knocking out and dominating bigger fighters, whereas Bernard has spent his entire career winning ugly for the most part against smaller guys. Roy was green too when he fought Hopkins, so you can't use that as a reason Roy won that fight. Roy Jones won belts in 4 divisions, cleaned out light heavyweight, was the first middleweight to win a heavyweight belt in 100 years, nothing Bernard has done compares to that by itself.
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Originally posted by strugler View Poststreet cred and rapping is clearly a joke buddy..............Roy dominating a green BHOP didnt happen but RJJ did win..............defense of middleweight aint irrelevant...............ROY did fight his share of bums too.............
you prefer flashy athletic fighters.........i can respect that.........but ROY accomplishing more than BHOP isnt without question............why take away BHOPS chin and consistency???.......thats like taking away RJJs speed and athleticism....
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Originally posted by strugler View PostOnlything Roy has on BHOP then is his speed and athletecism................and a win over heavyweight titleholder RUIZ............who perform better against Trinidad,tarver,Johnson,calazaghe?............not saying Roy isnt great but BHOP is greater imo...........
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