Is Fury's win over Wilder 2 the most overrated win in recent years?

[LeOoze]

The Wilder slander is getting old. Say what you want about his skillset but it got him to the top of his division. Even you admit that he is a top 5 HW so that says more about the division being thin rather than Wilder being overrated. Outside of the top 5 HW y'all claim everyone is a bum so it doesnt matter who Wilder fought outside of Fury, AJ, and Whyte y'all would have called anyone outside of those 3 a bum.

I agree. Wilder is top of his division right now. This division is TRASH. I don't care if you say Fury is a top dog of this era. But it's crazy that because Fury beat Wilder, somehow he'd be able to beat the top dogs in every other era? Come on man.

[Lonelystoner]

I agree. Wilder is top of his division right now. This division is TRASH. I don't care if you say Fury is a top dog of this era. But it's crazy that because Fury beat Wilder, somehow he'd be able to beat the top dogs in every other era? Come on man.

It's mostly Fury fans spewing that dumb logic about Wilder being a bum but they turn around and say Fury the best in the division for beating this so called bum. ****** people

[LeOoze]

It's mostly Fury fans spewing that dumb logic about Wilder being a bum but they turn around and say Fury the best in the division for beating this so called bum. ****** people

Exactly. You know what time it is.

[Butt stuff]

Wilder was never that good. Is he a top 5 heavy right now? Probably

If he’s not that good, how is he top 5 in the world? You contradicted your self within two consecutive sentences.

[LeOoze]

If he’s not that good, how is he top 5 in the world? You contradicted your self within two consecutive sentences.

Because this era is one of the worst eras for heavies?

[Butt stuff]

One of biggest hitters in history. Wilder would have been favourite against Josh before fury beat him 1st time.
it was a great win as he was first to tame wilder

IMO Wilder is still the favourite against AJ. He’s snappier and faster in hand speed and reflexes. Better stamina and also the crazy power.

Even with a mentally broken wilder, I still think he’d beat AJ 8 times out of 10.

[Marchegiano]

It is an interesting practice fans take part in when they trash a fighter until they want to use that fighter to prop up another fighter.

That said, I'm a Wilder fan, so, ... no.

[billeau2]

Before anyone says anything, I do not rate Wilder or prefer american boxers or none of that. And I don't get into country wars.

But, holy **** is Fury's TKO over Wilder the most overrated win since forever. Like it's not even a great win.

Most of us thought Wilder was a hypejob even before he faced Fury. He fought Fury prior and got schooled almost every round except for the 2 rounds he scored a knockdown. He got gifted with a draw ffs. Are we really surprised that Fury, who won the first time, would end up winning the second time?

Wilder was never that good. Is he a top 5 heavy right now? Probably, but if you look at his wins they are 99.9% garbage. His best win is probably an old Ortiz. He was ****ted on pretty much every forum, rightfully so. But since Fury beat him, Wilder all of a sudden becomes the hardest-hitting heavyweight boogeyman to ever exist in boxing? **** no.

Any great heavyweight in history would've beaten Wilder that night, and if we're being honest, Fury didn't even look that great. He was fighting dirty and got caught with some shots that he shouldn't have been hit with.

I cannot think of any other win that has been more meaningless than this one. Any thoughts?

Punchers have a different mind set. They are looking to survive and get a maxium amount of opportunities. Wilder is athletic enough not to get knocked down willy nilly. If he can avoid getting starched he is dangerous. There were times in the division where a pure puncher would not make it unless they had other skills, but that does not mean a puncher like Wilder can be judged on his boxing skills.

What about David Haye? an ambush fighter who found a way to stay back and KO a few people... Haye was never a much better boxer than Wilder if you watch him. Where I agree with some of your hyperbolic perspective is where we take Wilder and try to place him in an era like Louis, or Ali's. In these eras the punchers had to have boxing skills, the general level of skill was just such that no one who did not have at least great basic skills, would not survive. particularly the 70's where Lyle and Shavers, both pure punchers, had to know how to box...

But today most of the fighters are limited except Fury. Ortiz when he fought Wilder was beating him badly in the second fight. It never really mattered though. We may see a situation when wilder fights guys like Ruiz and Joshua where Wilder is KO'ed like Fury was doing to him the second fight. Time will tell. BUT all a puncher has to do is have a way to not get attacked. Wilder knows guys will hesitate against him... Thats why he can do what he does.

[hugh grant]

IMO Wilder is still the favourite against AJ. He’s snappier and faster in hand speed and reflexes. Better stamina and also the crazy power.

Even with a mentally broken wilder, I still think he’d beat AJ 8 times out of 10.

Actually, I think Josh would be betting favourite now but it's still a great win for fury over wilder. Even if Josh beats wilder it's still a very good win for fury. Less of a good win for josh as it's fury used goods