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    Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
    I agree, Cotto should put up the title to boost sales and make himself and everybody earn more. More people will pay to see a championship than a mere exhibition, of which he is a participant and promo tee, he should not be stingy.
    lol, yeah, comming from a pacquiao fan.

    You just wanna see Pacquiao capture 7 titles.

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      Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
      lol, yeah, comming from a pacquiao fan.

      You just wanna see Pacquiao capture 7 titles.
      He, he, yeh right. What will he gain by that title anyway, if Pacquiao defeats him he would just be paper champ and the title would be useless. And if he wins he would need the title for unification, edge in future negotiations, why drop it?

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        Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
        He, he, yeh right. What will he gain by that title anyway, if Pacquiao defeats him he would just be paper champ and the title would be useless. And if he wins he would need the title for unification, edge in future negotiations, why drop it?
        Cotto doesn't need a belt to have an edge in future negotiations. His fan base and reputation alone make him a much bigger money-maker than the other champions: Mosely, Berto or Hlatshwayo. And if he were to fight PWill its obvious he would get the lion's share belt or no belt. For God's sake, Pwill can't even fill up a small theatre! Finally, if he were to lose Mayweather would obviously be out of the question. And that is precisely why he doesn't care about the belt. Vacate it Cotto and then the WBO can give it to Pac should he win. Everybody wins!
        Last edited by Gabilan; 08-06-2009, 02:18 AM.

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          Originally posted by yeng4life View Post
          Cotto is afraid with Pacman. Because if he lose, still, he has the belt. But, if he's confident enough why care for 1,000$ to 150,000$ if you will earn 1000x more with this bout.

          Gamble you belt Cotto, this makes the fight more interesting.
          Originally posted by CHISTOSOBABOSO View Post
          Vacate that **** Cotto. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
          Originally posted by MakeDamnSure View Post
          Cotto is scared defending that
          Cotto's scared??? Pacman has 2 options fight Cotto at 145 withou the title or at 147 for the title and cant decide. Who is scared??? Cotto made up his mind and will fight Pacquiao it is pacquiao who hasn't decide and is still demanding. Once again Who Is Scared????
          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          stop complaining... if cotto doesn't like it he should walk away from the $15 million.
          Wont have too.
          Originally posted by biglou88 View Post
          Cotto is gonna end up putting it on the line. He's not gonna throw away the biggest fight of his Career.
          We'll see about that, probably at 147.
          Originally posted by theking0906 View Post
          lets clear this up any thing from 141lbs to 147lbs is a welter weight fight the agreed upon weight is 145 that is within the ww limit so the title can be on the line period there is no rule saying the fight has to be at 147 for it to be a ww title fight
          True WW is from 141 Up To 147 but not limited or restricted to 145.
          Originally posted by Radical View Post
          Poor Cotto

          the WBO has him hunged from his nuts .
          Don't think so.
          Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
          I agree, Cotto should put up the title to boost sales and make himself and everybody earn more. More people will pay to see a championship than a mere exhibition, of which he is a participant and promo tee, he should not be stingy/ selfish.
          This fight needs no boosting, people are interested in seeing these 2 fighters face each other not what title they are going to win.

          I have been saying all along that this fight was agreed to by both fighters at 145 with no title and i aslo have been saying that it was Varcarcel who started this issue influencing the title to be involved in order for him to cash in.
          I have also been saying that Cotto will stick to his words and will not fight for the title (might have to pay certain fees to keep the title) unless it os at 145 and if obligated to do so he will not pay the fees and vacate.

          Well guys it is time for you to hear it, like i did, from Cotto on voice once again demostrating that he is a man of his word and principle. Which is a shame that there's not a lot of that in this boxing wolrd, were we see Presidents of Organizations (WBO) twisting their rules to cash in and take advantage of boxers. The following is a link to El Nuevo Dia (Puerto Rican Newspaper) where Cotto said yesterday everything i mentioned above. ou can read it and you can also hear him, yes his on voice no lawer, promoter, trainer or dumb WBO President involved.



          I hope you enjoy this interview of a true warrior in the ring and a true man of his words and principles in the sport
          Last edited by prsi; 08-06-2009, 06:06 AM.

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            Originally posted by Hard Knocks View Post
            Cotto should keep putting pressure on Pacquiao to go up to 147.
            I'd rather say Pac should pressure Cotto to fight him at 145 with the title. Cotto needs Pac morethan Pac needs Potato i mean Cotto.

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              Originally posted by BennyST View Post
              Did any of you even read the article? They are going to try and make him pay the sanctioning fees regardless of whether it's a title fight or not. They are doing everything they can, short of kidnapping him and ransoming him back to his team for the title fight, to make him give into Pac ad Roach's demands.

              Cotto has stated that unless he can fight at the proper WW limit where he won the title then he will not fight for his title and not pay any sanctioning fees. They are saying that we are going to make you pay no matter what. That is ****ed up people. Pac and his team are pulling every string possible to screw Cotto over for this thing.

              Anyone who defends this should not call themselves a boxing fan. This is a blatant rip off of a fighter. Also, Cotto is not guaranteed 15 million. Absolutely not. Pac is only guaranteed 12 million and Cotto will get, at the highest, 10 million, but it probably won't get close to that figure after everything. From what I understand Pac has most of the TV rights and ****e like that which will bump his $ amount way above 12 whereas Cotto won't see any of that.

              Either way, this is just plain boxing corruption at its best and should not be looked upon as something that is normal and needs to be done. Whether you're a fan of Pac or not, no one should condone this and think it's right because it's not. They are simply trying to screw Cotto over. It is about that simple.
              Great post. It's not about which fighter you support (I love both fighters). It's about whether you care about the integrity of boxing as a sport or not, and to their immense credit, many Pac fans, and some Pinoys, have supported Cotto's stance and criticised the WBO and Pac's advisers.

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                Originally posted by fightingfigs View Post
                Its funny how they claim its "within " the welterweight limit but its actally restricting the WW limit
                Exactly, it's logically impossible to be "within" a limit. A limit is not a range. The WBO are trying to rewrite the English language.

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                  Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                  Exactly, it's logically impossible to be "within" a limit. A limit is not a range. The WBO are trying to rewrite the English language.
                  uhm WHAT?

                  let me make this a bit clearer and not jumble ****ed.

                  welterweight - 141-147
                  catchweight - 145 AGREED

                  welterweight title does not say 147 WBO WelterWeight Champion

                  WBO stance is due to the fact 145 is WITHIN the welterweight limit of 141-147 they are able to make cotto pay sanction fees with or without the belt due to the fact he is the WBO Champ and this will be a ww fight.

                  cotto displays he could careless about the belt so choices:

                  a) don't fight pac - worst option for him
                  b) vacate the belt - pac pays the fees to have belt on the line
                  c) put the belt on the line - have a great fight

                  who's losing the most if the fight doesn't get put through? simple answer: COTTO

                  ^^based on what one has to gain from WINNING the fight.

                  that's what it is not what everyone else wants to put out and make their own biased opinions.

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                    Originally posted by HattonFaithful View Post
                    as far as im concerned i think that if the title is going to be online then the fight needs to be at 147...and one thing i dont understand why was pac willing to fight dlh at 147 and is crying about fight cotto at 147 i think its ridiculous...and like i said the only way the WELTERWEIGHT TITLE should be on line is if its at the WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT come on pac buck up
                    so the clottey fight was not supposed to be for the WW title because cotto came in at 146 lbs. you ****ing idiot, two can play that game, cotto man up and don't be too scared of putting your belt on the line, are you not confident you can beat the Great Manny Pacquiao?

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                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                      According to WBO president Francisco "Paco" Valcarcel, WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto will still have pay a sanctioning fee to the WBO, even if the title is not on the line against Manny Pacquiao on November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Cotto, as champion, has to pay the WBO a minimum of $1,000 and a max of $150,000.


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                      Another example of the pure and total evil that is the sanctioning bodies. I hope they have enjoyed getting wealthy off the destruction of our sport.

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