Lennox Lewis and the KLITCHKO BROTHERS are top 3 heavyweights of all time

[The_Demon]

this thread is ******-biggest understatement of the month

[STILL_DETOX]

lennox is #1, klitschkos are top 20

[StarshipTrooper]

Pinky Poet, and his poetic fabulations.

Culled from one of your previous posts on the subject:

I am also the guy who called Muhammad Ali the "Sam Peter of the 70ies".

Why? BECAUSE I WATCHED all of Ali's fights. And he plods along like an overweight zombie. Cassius, the cruiser was fine. Ali, the heavy not.

I mean I don't know if I can complain too much because Ali was an overweight with Parkinson, thus it's actually a proof of his greatness how he managed to win those fights. But the fact that an overweight with Parkinson is at the top of the heavies in the 70ies shows once again what a crappy division it was then.

Regarding the Frazier = Featherfist problem: Can you imagine David Haye becoming a heavy and then fighting 20 fights and scoring only 10 KOs (= like Frazier)?

WHO CARES THAT DAVID HAYE WAS A POWERPUNCHER AT CRUISER?
Who cares that Joe Frazier was KOing cruisers? (Median KO-victim weight 190lbs).

Of the 10 KOs that Frazier scored against his 200+ opponents 6 were against bums (like Ron Stander 37-21 or Manuel Ramos 25-29) and the remaning 4 were against median 209lbs opponents, who also don't have stellar records (e.g. 2x Jimmy Ellis 40-12 who boxed as low as 155 in his career). HOW IN THE WOLD CAN SOMEONE with such a crappy KO record be considered a powerpuncher?

Your posts are a matter of public record so I don't need to use "fabulations".

Poet

[knn]

most of youngs losses came after he was past it

Oh sure. Whenever a fighter of the 70ies loses he was "past it". Except that in his first 10 fights he had already 3 losses. Let me guess: In the 80ies he was shot, in the 70ies he was mismanaged. Hahaha.

But, yeah, keep on defending a 34-19 featherfist.

Actually Young's record is even worse, since 34-19 includes also cruiser fights. His heavyweight career record (both boxers 200+) is 20-12, 5 KO wins in 32 fights.

Moreover your "Young was shot" statement is nonsense because Young was boxing until 1988. If you just take his 70ies performance (= his prime) then Young's heavyweight record in the 70ies was 11-5 (3 KOs wins).

THAT's how bad the 70ies were.

and if you look at my list 8 out of the 13 names are HOF,

Ali won against the following opponents from your list who were HOFs:

1. Norton (gift decisions for Ali)
2. Patterson (a cruiser opponent, he would lose against any better today's heavyweight if they would allow him to fight)
3. Foreman (possibly drugged as Ali's trainer and Foreman claimed) Moreover he was added to the HOF after his second career so we actually don't know whether Foreman I would be considered a HOFer.
4. Frazier (half-blind featherfist, shows you the terrible state of the 70ies division)
5. Liston (mainly a bum-beater)

so what HOF has Wlad fought??? im waiting?????

You have to wait another 20 years to know. You have to wait 5 years after Wlad's last opponent retires.

[StarshipTrooper]

Frazier (half-blind featherfist, shows you the terrible state of the 70ies division)

And he digs himself a deeper hole

Poet

[TredKiller]

Oh sure. Whenever a fighter of the 70ies loses he was "past it". Except that in his first 10 fights he had already 3 losses. Let me guess: In the 80ies he was shot, in the 70ies he was mismanaged. Hahaha.

But, yeah, keep on defending a 34-19 featherfist.

Actually Young's record is even worse, since 34-19 includes also cruiser fights. His heavyweight career record (both boxers 200+) is 20-12, 5 KO wins in 32 fights.

Moreover your "Young was shot" statement is nonsense because Young was boxing until 1988. If you just take his 70ies performance (= his prime) then Young's heavyweight record in the 70ies was 11-5 (3 KOs wins).

THAT's how bad the 70ies were.


Ali won against the following opponents from your list who were HOFs:

1. Norton (gift decisions for Ali)
2. Patterson (a cruiser opponent, he would lose against any better today's heavyweight if they would allow him to fight)
3. Foreman (possibly drugged as Ali's trainer and Foreman claimed) Moreover he was added to the HOF after his second career so we actually don't know whether Foreman I would be considered a HOFer.
4. Frazier (half-blind featherfist, shows you the terrible state of the 70ies division)
5. Liston (mainly a bum-beater)

You have to wait another 20 years to know. You have to wait 5 years after Wlad's last opponent retires.

omg, you really dont know anything,
do you even think about what you type???

and wlad has never faced a HOFer

[Roger Mellie]

Forget the 70's! The joe frazier of today would be able to smash knn's teeth out through his *******!

[knn]

Culled from one of your previous posts on the subject:

You know what, Pinky Poet? As much as you seem to add NOTHING to any thread where I saw you posting, at least you quote a lot of my posts, so that others have more opportunities to read what I wrote. I thank you for that. In this sense: You are always welcome.

Having said that: I have no idea how the quoted post of mine proves that I consider boxers below 235 lbs featherfisty.

A featherfist is someone with 50% or less KOratio in real heavyweight fights (= both opponents 200+). I took Chris Byrd (approx. 50% KOratio) as the threshold because Byrd is generally considered a featherfist.

[knn]

omg, you really dont know anything,
do you even think about what you type???

Hahaha, so typical of 70ies-delusionists: After a few facts which they cannot dispute they resort to "you know nothing" or "you are not a real boxing fan". Exactly as I stated. Welcome to the "Predictable-70ies-delusionists club".

But you are not alone: Just read the above posts of your fellow-delusionists: They claim I have written something that I never wrote. They bring up lightweight (Valero) as some "counter-proof". They resort to their favorite fantasies ("valeuv could NOT catch ali. i promise you that one. it would NOT HAPPEN! NEVER!" or "Marciano hit harder then Sanders, Brewster and purity combined"). They start to curse and trashtalk ("You sound like a ******").

And sure enough they spew Bad Karma:

• Southpaw Stinger ("Stats stats STATS!") Yes, facts, facts, facts
• mr.crust ("nobcake") Wow, a word like "Rosebud"
• vandiar ("ridiculous. learn some history") I am the one who is teaching the 70ies-delusionists the history lesson, since they are too entangled in their _ClAYISM RELIGION_ to see the facts clearly.

You can pat your 70ies-friends on the back now while repeating "Joe 'Half-blind Dwarf' Frazier KOs Lennox in round 1". Just like televangelists shout "Jesus" you should shout "Fraaaayzziaaa". Hahaha. Pathetic.

and wlad has never faced a HOFer

Of course he hasn't, because his opponents are still active. Wait 20 years.

[knn]

Forget the 70's! The joe frazier of today would be able to smash knn's teeth out through his *******!

Is this your favorite rimming fantasy that involves me and Frazier?

Has your name "Mr. Crust" something to do with medical problems in that area, Crusty?