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    #21
    Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
    He got an SD against an aged and slow Oscar...I certainly think a faster, stronger and hungrier Oscar would have put the hurting on Floyd
    That split decision was ridiculous. Floyd won clearly.

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      #22
      Maybe shane,but oscar would lose he loves losing big fights

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        #23
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        That split decision was ridiculous. Floyd won clearly.
        Everybody has different styles of judging based on what they favor. I personally thought Floyd won as well, but I cannot fault someone who would have scored it a draw or a tight SD for Oscar.

        Floyd played it safe and rarely took the fight to Oscar, settling for pot shots. I definitely could see how it would have been scored differently. If Oscar had the stamina of his youth to throw those jabs consistently who knows. Even then, he was the aggressor, and I don't think it was really all that ridiculous.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
          Everybody has different styles of judging based on what they favor. I personally thought Floyd won as well, but I cannot fault someone who would have scored it a draw or a tight SD for Oscar.

          Floyd played it safe and rarely took the fight to Oscar, settling for pot shots. I definitely could see how it would have been scored differently. If Oscar had the stamina of his youth to throw those jabs consistently who knows. Even then, he was the aggressor, and I don't think it was really all that ridiculous.
          I can. I thought Floyd won going away. Plus, the idea that Oscar was the aggressor was false. Once he started getting caught with counters, he didn't push Floyd at all.

          As for "if Oscar had the stamina of his youth"...ehh. Like he showed against Tito? Mosley both times? I don't know.

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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            I can. I thought Floyd won going away. Plus, the idea that Oscar was the aggressor was false. Once he started getting caught with counters, he didn't push Floyd at all.

            As for "if Oscar had the stamina of his youth"...ehh. Like he showed against Tito? Mosley both times? I don't know.
            He was still the aggressor the majority of the time, he got tired from swinging and missing, but even with the counters, up until the final bell, Oscar was pushing the fight forward.

            The Tito fight was more faulty logic from his corner.

            In the Mosley fights, they ****** until the final bell in two great fights, with the second fight I thought Oscar won in a landslide, but hey.

            I always thought Oscar had the ability to dig deep in the championship rounds and pull out a gut check win. Like the Cotto/Clottey fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              Agreeed.....
              Glad you see this one my way, Reed.

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                #27
                Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
                He was still the aggressor the majority of the time, he got tired from swinging and missing, but even with the counters, up until the final bell, Oscar was pushing the fight forward.

                The Tito fight was more faulty logic from his corner.

                In the Mosley fights, they ****** until the final bell in two great fights, with the second fight I thought Oscar won in a landslide, but hey.

                I always thought Oscar had the ability to dig deep in the championship rounds and pull out a gut check win. Like the Cotto/Clottey fight.
                His corner told him to box in the Tito fight. he admitted he was tired.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  SG,

                  I pick Floyd prime for prime. Oscar could be outboxed - that was weakness. Quartey won rounds outboxing him, Mosley did it, an old Pea, even Oba Carr had his way with him for many rounds.
                  True enough.

                  But my concern is whether or not Floyd would have a high enough output to win the decision.

                  As I said, prime Oscar flowed punches beautifully. And whether Floyd picks them off or not, that **** impresses judges.

                  Also, prime for prime ; you have to consider popularity possibly playing a role in the decision.

                  The crowd always went bat**** whenever Oscar so much as sneezed in the ring.

                  That could help sway some of the close rounds in his favor.

                  Not saying it's fair, but it is why I'd pick him.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
                    True enough.

                    But my concern is whether or not Floyd would have a high enough output to win the decision.

                    As I said, prime Oscar flowed punches beautifully. And whether Floyd picks them off or not, that **** impresses judges.

                    Also, prime for prime ; you have to consider popularity possibly playing a role in the decision.

                    The crowd always went bat**** whenever Oscar so much as sneezed in the ring.

                    That could help sway some of the close rounds in his favor.

                    Not saying it's fair, but it is why I'd pick him.
                    Fair points, bud.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      SG,

                      I pick Floyd prime for prime. Oscar could be outboxed - that was weakness. Quartey won rounds outboxing him, Mosley did it, an old Pea, even Oba Carr had his way with him for many rounds.
                      I hear you. It's a close one either way IMO, but I'd just lean towards Oscar

                      Mostly based on his showing against Mayweather himself. I agree with you that Floyd won slightly more clearly than some would have you believe but I saw enough in Oscar to come to the conclusion that he could push Floyd to the limit were he at his peak. That jab is really disruptive to Mayweather's rhythm, and I think Oscar would get the better of Floyd when he fights in the pocket or off the ropes

                      And as JmH Reborn pointed out, De La Hoya had the ability to snatch the closing rounds by wide margins when he needed it, and one or two rounds could make all the difference in a fight like this

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