Miguel Cotto Says "Margarito Should Be Banned For Life"

[Dave Rado]

You cant compare Titos wrap with Margaritos, in fact Titos wraps were not lethal at all, that's why the hall incident was never a big deal, and the fact that Tito couldn't KO Hopkins doesn't prove nothing, only that Hopkins was smarter and all the other big names that Tito lost to, well they were only bigger and scared of Titos power. The only good thing that helps MArgarito is, that he didn't go inside the ring with that stuff and they cant prove he used it in any other fight, but puts a very big ? mark on his reputation and career. The way Cotto feels, is normal because think about it, that could have being Cottos last fight, but I guess Margarito used just the enough amount, not to kill but to make the damage

You can compare it in terms of what was alleged, just not in terms of what was proven. This is what Fisher and Hopkins alleged at the time in an interview with Ron Heard:

Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.

Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).

In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder.

OTH, Don Felix denied all that and said he wrapped his hands as he did to create a "pillow", to protect Tito's hand; and said that far from creating a plaster-like effect, "this tends to take away some of the power in the punch." He also claimed to have been unaware that the way he was wrapping it was against the rules.

It should have been investigated at the time, and got to the bottom of one way or the other. But unfortunately, it wasn't.

[Dave Rado]

that's a possibility since cotto threw everything he had at margo and couldn't hurt him...

or he doesn't want margo to get a chance at redemption

I think he would be wrong to fight him while Margarito is suspended - reputable boxers should respect the boxing commissions' bans.

And IMO it would be wrong for the commission to lift the suspension when it comes up for appeal.

And IMO Cotto is justified in calling for a lifetime ban.

But if and only if the ban is ever lifted, then he may decide to fight him at that time in order to salvage his pride. That's hypothetical, though, because I don't believe the ban will ever be lifted, and nor should it be, IMO. And I don't see why Cotto should be expected to consider that hypothetical possibility at this time.

[Pullcounter]

I think he would be wrong to fight him while Margarito is suspended - reputable boxers should respect the boxing commissions' bans.

And IMO it would be wrong for the commission to lift the suspension when it comes up for appeal.

And IMO Cotto is justified in calling for a lifetime ban.

But if and only if the ban is ever lifted, then he may decide to fight him at that time in order to salvage his pride. That's hypothetical, though, because I don't believe the ban will ever be lifted, and nor should it be, IMO. And I don't see why Cotto should be expected to consider that hypothetical possibility at this time.

I agree on all points, but the question was is cotto afraid of margo. it's a possibility.

[F l i c k e r]

Cotto needs to stop worrying about the past. The fucker lost, get over it. Bigger sore loser than Bill Bilichick. He better focus on Clottey, otherwise he will have loss #2.

Anyways. This is why boxing scene members and Cotto cant be apart of the NSAC or any Athletic Commision. You cant assume a person cheated all the time. You also have to take into consideration that they only caught him ATTEMPTING to cheat. Oh I forgot I am in a Cotto fan thread... Law isn't something that they know too much about...

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

Cotto needs to stop worrying about the past. The fucker lost, get over it. Bigger sore loser than Bill Bilichick. He better focus on Clottey, otherwise he will have loss #2.

Anyways. This is why boxing scene members and Cotto cant be apart of the NSAC or any Athletic Commision. You cant assume a person cheated all the time. You also have to take into consideration that they only caught him ATTEMPTING to cheat. Oh I forgot I am in a Cotto fan thread... Law isn't something that they know too much about...

Dont be an idiot first the little evidences the videos in the margacheato vs cotto fight the part your punches should be solid now . ok also the blood stain from the wraps on the same corner it was in the cotto fight. Cottos face was swollen really really bad even weeks after the fight. Capetillo said hes always wrapped his hands the same way its commen sense.

[Pullcounter]

just to play devil's advocate...

Dont be an idiot first the little evidences the videos in the margacheato vs cotto fight the part your punches should be solid now .

depends on how you interpret that

ok also the blood stain from the wraps on the same corner it was in the cotto fight.

how do you know that the blood stain didn't come from the the pointer-finger knuckle?

Cottos face was swollen really really bad even weeks after the fight.

isn't that what usually happens after a fight?

Capetillo said hes always wrapped his hands the same way

maybe he meant the wrapping itself and not the plaster.

its commen sense.

its probable that he used plaster against cotto, but there is no evidence

[F l i c k e r]

Dont be an idiot first the little evidences the videos in the margacheato vs cotto fight the part your punches should be solid now . ok also the blood stain from the wraps on the same corner it was in the cotto fight. Cottos face was swollen really really bad even weeks after the fight. Capetillo said hes always wrapped his hands the same way its commen sense.

So what. We dont know what he meant by that. You automatically assume it because of the situation but that doesn't mean ****. You cant assume anything without definate proof, how come Cotto didn't complain about his punches being abnormally hard when the fight was over? He didn't say anything, not even going as far as saying "he punches like he has stones for hands" or something as in respect for his loss. Instead he waits all this time and speaks. Yeah... right.

Blood stains? Do you know how many people cut their hands up when punching? People do that when training. Its nothing to get excited about. Cotto's face was swollen bad because he blocked all the punches with his face. If you do that of course your face is going to be swollen and yes for weeks. Not everyone is a fast healer, its the first time Cotto ever got a beat down and now we see that he is a slow healer too.

Hell, I wrap my hands the same time every time for years. C'mon, he wrapped three times around the wrist and then put the rest on the knuckles. It doesn't mean anything. Your gonna really be ****** enough to tell me that in 44 fights, the athletic commision only had a problem approving his wraps ONCE?? Then the opposing fighters trainer gets to look at the wraps too. So your gonna tell me Cotto's trainer had nothing to say about his wraps and there was something in them?

The decision to suspend him was fine. He was caught trying to cheat. Therefore he gets a lighter punishment for attempting to break the rules.

[Dorruel]

Cotto needs to stop worrying about the past. The fucker lost, get over it. Bigger sore loser than Bill Bilichick. He better focus on Clottey, otherwise he will have loss #2.

Anyways. This is why boxing scene members and Cotto cant be apart of the NSAC or any Athletic Commision. You cant assume a person cheated all the time. You also have to take into consideration that they only caught him ATTEMPTING to cheat. Oh I forgot I am in a Cotto fan thread... Law isn't something that they know too much about...

Cotto feels he was cheated i dont see anything wrong with defending himself your comment was pretty ******. Put yourself in Cottos shoes for a moment

[fightingfigs]

I agree with Cotto. Actually I say go one step further and put the scumbag and his trainer in prison. Boxing is dangerous enough without some terd putting concrete on his hands. I'm so glad Mosley beat the hell out of that cheating low life.

great post , you couldnt of put it any better than that^

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

i agree on all points, but the question was is cotto afraid of margo. It's a possibility.

alsoif cotto was so afraid of him he wouldnt have asked for an immediate rematch and it was going to happen until margacheato ****ed it up for himself not cotto margacheato did. U always talk **** bout cotto in like every post