Floyd Mayweather Jr - Four Possible Opponents in 09

[big_james10]

Mayweather is NOT a natural 147 pounder.

I am really sick of all the haters making ridiculous and lame arguments for critcizing Mayweather. Some of you sound like the idiotic **********s in the U.S. who attack ***** for problems they were responsible for. The thing that bothers me the most is the ridiculous idea that Mayweather is not fighting a "real 147-pounder". To all you idiots who are criticizing him for not fight a "real 147-pounder", I have news for you. MAYWEATHER IS NOT A REAL 147-pounder. HE FOUGHT 75 PERCENT OF HIS FIGHTS AT 130 POUNDS. He fought twice at 135 (against Castille), three times at 140, four times at 147 and once at 154 against De La Hoya, who came into the ring weight 175 pounds at the time fo the fight. That is 10 fights out of 40 that he fought above 130. His best weight in terms of power is 135 and his best weight overall is 140. Cotto and Mosley had their chance to fight him and did not pursue them. Berto is still a second tier fighter and Margarito is a cheater.

So to fight Hatton, Pacquaio or Marquez is no where near as big of a mismatch as, say Roy Jones jumping 25 pounds to fight John Ruiz or Mayweather fighting De La Hoya who outweight him by 30 pounds on fight night. So please stop the whining

[GRUSTLER]

I hear you fam......

I am really sick of all the haters making ridiculous and lame arguments for critcizing Mayweather. Some of you sound like the idiotic **********s in the U.S. who attack ***** for problems they were responsible for. The thing that bothers me the most is the ridiculous idea that Mayweather is not fighting a "real 147-pounder". To all you idiots who are criticizing him for not fight a "real 147-pounder", I have news for you. MAYWEATHER IS NOT A REAL 147-pounder. HE FOUGHT 75 PERCENT OF HIS FIGHTS AT 130 POUNDS. He fought twice at 135 (against Castille), three times at 140, four times at 147 and once at 154 against De La Hoya, who came into the ring weight 175 pounds at the time fo the fight. That is 10 fights out of 40 that he fought above 130. His best weight in terms of power is 135 and his best weight overall is 140. Cotto and Mosley had their chance to fight him and did not pursue them. Berto is still a second tier fighter and Margarito is a cheater.

So to fight Hatton, Pacquaio or Marquez is no where near as big of a mismatch as, say Roy Jones jumping 25 pounds to fight John Ruiz or Mayweather fighting De La Hoya who outweight him by 30 pounds on fight night. So please stop the whining

It's not about him fighting at 147, it's about him fighting someone that THEY THINK can beat him and that is not the case. All of their assuming and opinions are based on fighters that they feel can possibly beat Floyd Mayweather Jr, so any excuse to why Mayweather shouldn't be considered the best will do for them. Floyd barely makes 147 come fight night while guys like Mosley, Cotto, Williams come to the ring weighing 150 and better. De La Hoya fight Mayweather came to the ring weighing 148 and De La Hoya had him by like 12 or 15 pounds over the 154 pound limit. People will see what they want to see no matter how clear the truth is.

[deliveryman]

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[Reggie Miller]

DLH????!!

[jbin333]

You Die Hard Cotto fans are too funny. Miguel Cotto is not being mentioned not only by Floyd's camp but also by Golden Boy but Manny Pacquiao is and he is a Top Rank fighter. The reason is because Cotto is not a Heavy weight $ wise in the sport at the moment or a threat to anybody right now. Antonio Margarito stopped Cotto's rise and star power so now he's on the road back and basically is questionable until he fights Clottey and we can really see how he has adjusted since last July. I can understand you guys are Miguel Cotto fans and it is great that you support him but the reality of it in a whole is that Miguel Cotto is back to square one and by him fighting Michael Jennings in his come back proves it.

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Cotto is a big draw in NYC and Puerto Rico only!!! I went to the Jennings fight and I could not believe the big crowd they were able to draw for that fight, but come to think of it John Duddy was also on the undercard so that might explain the size of the crowd...... COTTO MEANS NO MONEY !!!

[Ishy Aytan]

I am really sick of all the haters making ridiculous and lame arguments for critcizing Mayweather. Some of you sound like the idiotic **********s in the U.S. who attack ***** for problems they were responsible for. The thing that bothers me the most is the ridiculous idea that Mayweather is not fighting a "real 147-pounder". To all you idiots who are criticizing him for not fight a "real 147-pounder", I have news for you. MAYWEATHER IS NOT A REAL 147-pounder. HE FOUGHT 75 PERCENT OF HIS FIGHTS AT 130 POUNDS. He fought twice at 135 (against Castille), three times at 140, four times at 147 and once at 154 against De La Hoya, who came into the ring weight 175 pounds at the time fo the fight. That is 10 fights out of 40 that he fought above 130. His best weight in terms of power is 135 and his best weight overall is 140. Cotto and Mosley had their chance to fight him and did not pursue them. Berto is still a second tier fighter and Margarito is a cheater.

So to fight Hatton, Pacquaio or Marquez is no where near as big of a mismatch as, say Roy Jones jumping 25 pounds to fight John Ruiz or Mayweather fighting De La Hoya who outweight him by 30 pounds on fight night. So please stop the whining

Good post.

[Dave Rado]

Pacquiao went all the way up to 147 and dominated Oscar De La Hoya & your saying that 140 is Pac's highest peak weight and a catch weight will affect him in a negative way?

Do you honestly think the De La Hoya fight proved anything about how Pacquiao would cope with a top Welter? If so, you're in a tiny minority.

Most people would give Pac no chance against any top Welter.

We won't know for sure even whether he's a true Jnr Welter at this point, until we see him against Hatton.

People keep saying Floyd isn't a natural Welter; and if that's the case, I don't see why he shouldn't fight a Jnr Welterweight at Jnr Welterweight, rather than at catchweight.

Regarding your other post, I believe Roach said catchweight because he doubted Floyd would be willing to fight at 140.

Finally, I didn't say he'd get no respect if he fought Pac at catchweight, just that he'd get a lot more respect if he fought him at 140.

JMM is a very skilled fighter bottom line and his weight did not come in as a big factor and it didn't work against him at all. He beat two naturally bigger guys than him and by KO! & they never got KO'd prior to that in their professional careers. Nobody knows how JMM will do at higher weights but from seeing how he is adapting I can see him putting it on in a positive way.

He beat two naturally bigger fighters - you said it yourself. That means he won despite the natural weight disadvantage, it doesn't mean there was no weight disadvantage. He got the knock-outs due to his skills, not because he's the world's hardest puncher - Pac hits harder than he does, and if he continues to move up in weight, there would obviously come a point where his skill advantage over his opponents becomes less of a factor than the weight disadvantage. In Mayweather's case, JMM wouldn't have any skill advantage, and the weight disadvantage at 147 would make it a very easy win for Floyd, in most people's opinions.

[Dave Rado]

Miguel Cotto is not being mentioned not only by Floyd's camp but also by Golden Boy but Manny Pacquiao is and he is a Top Rank fighter.

GBP get a percentage of all Manny's fights, that's the deal they agreed after Pac signed with GBP and then reneged on the contract.

[Dave Rado]

MAYWEATHER IS NOT A REAL 147-pounder. HE FOUGHT 75 PERCENT OF HIS FIGHTS AT 130 POUNDS. He fought twice at 135 (against Castille), three times at 140, four times at 147 and once at 154 against De La Hoya, who came into the ring weight 175 pounds at the time fo the fight. That is 10 fights out of 40 that he fought above 130. His best weight in terms of power is 135 and his best weight overall is 140.

That would be a fair argument if he was willing to fight JMM, and the Pac/Hatton winner in their own weight class, but is he? He fought Hatton the first time at 147. And why would he want to fight the Pac/Hatton winner at catchweight if his best weight is 140?

He also won the lineal Welterweight title and hasn't yet defended it against a top Welterweight, despite the fact that several of the fighters who subsequently became contenders are now generally thought of as being better than Judah or Boldomir ever were. If he doesn't want to be considered as a Welterweight, why fight for the title?

[GRUSTLER]

Original Posted by Dave Rado, Do you honestly think the De La Hoya fight proved anything about how Pacquiao would cope with a top Welter? If so, you're in a tiny minority.

Most people would give Pac no chance against any top Welter.

We won't know for sure even whether he's a true Jnr Welter at this point, until we see him against Hatton.

People keep saying Floyd isn't a natural Welter; and if that's the case, I don't see why he shouldn't fight a Jnr Welterweight at Jnr Welterweight, rather than at catchweight.

Regarding your other post, I believe Roach said catchweight because he doubted Floyd would be willing to fight at 140.

Finally, I didn't say he'd get no respect if he fought Pac at catchweight, just that he'd get a lot more if he fought him at 140.

Ok, fair enough. But people do give Manny a chance at 147. On some boxing list he is considered as one of the top 10 at Welter Weight? I saw it when The Kirkland fight aired and I didn't understand why would Manny be a face at 147? And Roach also said that he would try to take whatever advantage from Mayweather he could because Floyd is a talented guy. De La Hoya didn't fight back but Manny did look like he was in great shape and brought his speed and power up with him.

He beat two naturally bigger fighters - you said it yourself. That means he won despite the natural weight disadvantage, it doesn't mean there was no weight disadvantage. He got the knock-outs due to his skills, not because he's the world's hardest puncher - Pac hits harder than he does, and if he continues to move up in weight, there would obviously come a point where his skill advantage over his opponents becomes less of a factor than the weight disadvantage. In Mayweather's case, JMM wouldn't have any skill advantage, and the weight disadvantage at 147 would make it a very easy win for Floyd, in most people's opinions.

I can see that being the case but we also should take into consideration that JMM KO'd these bigger guys, so he could possibly be getting stronger moving up then getting weaker, wouldn't you say? He connected on Pacquiao at 130 and couldn't drop him but then moves up to 135 & KO's two rugged, naturally bigger guys? I would say that he is getting stronger than weaker right? Mayweather moved up from Jr Lightweight & adjusted, not saying JMM is in Floyd's league but he is in great shape and fights hard, Floyd is the favorite to win but it could be more competitive than a fight with a Welter.

Like you said, if big ass Williams can come down to 147 after fighting at Jr & Middle and fight Floyd why can't Floyd go down and fight JMM or Pac or them go up to 143/145 and it be competitive? We don't know for sure if Cotto/Mosley/Williams will be more competitive than Pacquiao/Marquez, we can only assume because their bigger? But Floyd has an easier time out boxing bigger slower guys than smaller faster ones.