Mayweather Wants $20 Million For Pacquiao, Mosley Bouts

[Dave Rado]

whether Baldomir was limited or not means nothing

Of course it means something, if you beat a limited champion and then, later on, far better fighters move into the division or move from being prospects to serious contenders - you can't say that beating those superior fighters would prove nothing. Titles aren't everything, beating the best possible competition means far more, IMO.

Baldomir is no longer ranked because he left the division and moved up to fight Forrest at 154.

He isn't ranked at any weight any more.

Judah was the undisputed champ of that division, how can u knock that and belittle it for what it is.

I'm not knocking it at all, just pointing out that there a several much better fighters in that division now - and were, even when he retired.

I'm just saying it makes no sense to say "what more is there to achieve" when there are Welterweights of that quality around now, and when he hasn't yet beaten a Welterweight of that quality. Judah was the undisputed champion, and beating him was a great win, but Judah was not as good as any of the top Welters are now.

[mrlopez]

Here we go with that **** again. So he was good enough to snatch the straps off of a bum journeyman and call himself the best, but not good enough to face the top dogs in that division? Cmon!

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4 reals

[JAB5239]

Fixed it for you

(he had not been sentenced yet, he was facing jail time but it was unknown how much)

So you don't think this would be weighing on his mind?

(Never lost at 130 pounds to anyone other then Floyd)

Does that mean he was at his best in his last fight?

(not a terrible version of Oscar but not the best)

Fair enough.


(Not an excuse considering that Floyd started at 130)

Where a fighter starts at does not determine how far in eight they can successfully climb.


(Zab fought much better in the Mayweather fight then the Baldomor fight, Zab in the Baldomir fight went in ther to knock out Baldomir which helped Baldomir win)

Agreed. But do you think this version of Zab was better than the one who beat Spinks the second tim round?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

give em both! son

Not taking ANYthing away from the great El Terrible but


1. When you find out that your promoter (murad muhammad at the time) was taking in close to 50% of your entire cut, it’ll do something to your focus
2. When you face an ATG that’s still seething for redemption after closely losing to Marco, its pretty much a given that you’ll be facing a beast in there…
3. Let’s face it, lining up Morales as a first fight at 130 while you still carry a SFW frame isnt gonna help
4. Im not saying gloves make the most different but it also does something to a fighter’s focus when a routine is broken

And last but not least

5. Pacquiao was supposed to fight Marquez in February….he started training in late December…when negotiations broke down and Morales was slotted in, the fight got moved to March…he kept on training…and if you’ve seen his pace in training, its not inconceivable that he might have overtrained for that fight



And he lost by 115-113….its not like he got dominated and it took a total shift in Morales’ style to accomplish that


But the bottomline, dude, that’s Erik ****en Morales….one of this generation’s true badass

[Marvelous Floyd]

At least he is coming out of retirement soon. He will get to his senses. I want Mosley bout

[The Gambler1981]

(he had not been sentenced yet, he was facing jail time but it was unknown how much)

So you don't think this would be weighing on his mind?

(He took the fight, signed the contract if he had so much on his mind why take on such a challenging fight. Also it was still in his best interest to win, so this argument means little to me)

(Never lost at 130 pounds to anyone other then Floyd)

Does that mean he was at his best in his last fight?

(how does it prove that he was not, speculation is speculation. According to his brother Genaro never loved the sport anyways it was just a job.)

(not a terrible version of Oscar but not the best)

Fair enough.


(Not an excuse considering that Floyd started at 130)

Where a fighter starts at does not determine how far in eight they can successfully climb.

(You can not use teh bigger man argument, on a man who was smaller for a vast chunk of his career. It does not make any sence.


(Zab fought much better in the Mayweather fight then the Baldomor fight, Zab in the Baldomir fight went in ther to knock out Baldomir which helped Baldomir win)

Agreed. But do you think this version of Zab was better than the one who beat Spinks the second tim round?

(Was the same one, pretty much anyways. He was very motivated for the Floyd fight comming off a loss.)

Responces done

[Chase8400]

Lemme get this straight, you fat Swiss bastard:

Mayweather made $6 million for Judah, $10 million for Baldomir, $20-25 million for Delahoya, and $15 million for Hatton.

You now want to offer $8 million for Mosley?!

Are you out of your mind?

Say Mosley-Mayweather does 700K buys. That is a reasonable amount. Nothing ridiculous. That translates to $35 million in revenues BEFORE the gate or sponsorships. Call it an even $40 mil. YOU WANT TO PAY FLOYD EIGHT MIL??

MAYWEATHER VS (INSERT NAME HERE) IS THE BIGGEST FIGHT IN BOXING RIGHT NOW. Pay the man.

Now, Gina Carano would KO him with her **** if they fought. JK.

Floyd is being unrealistic asking for 20 mil gauranteed. Anything north of 10 mil should be well enough for him. He really doesn't put any asses in the seats without Oscar or Hatton. Sad but utterly true.

[The Gambler1981]

Now, Gina Carano would KO him with her **** if they fought. JK.

Floyd is being unrealistic asking for 20 mil gauranteed. Anything north of 10 mil should be well enough for him. He really doesn't put any asses in the seats without Oscar or Hatton. Sad but utterly true.

I disagree, he gets people to buy PPV, which is more importent then asses in seats.

Any fighter makes more money when they are matched up with big stars~, it is a pretty simple concept, it takes 2 to make a mega fight.

[JAB5239]

Responces done

(He took the fight, signed the contract if he had so much on his mind why take on such a challenging fight. Also it was still in his best interest to win, so this argument means little to me)

Having a warrior mentality does not mean you are at your best, does it?


(how does it prove that he was not, speculation is speculation. According to his brother Genaro never loved the sport anyways it was just a job.)

So he was in is last fight and never loved the sport. Hardly inspiring to be at your best.


(You can not use teh bigger man argument, on a man who was smaller for a vast chunk of his career. It does not make any sence.

Of course you can. People carry weight in different ways. Besides, Floyd had shown he was able to deal with a top welter, while Ricky struggled in his only other outing there.


(Was the same one, pretty much anyways. He was very motivated for the Floyd fight comming off a loss.)

This is a fair point. But he could have also been questioning himself as how he could lose to Baldo, so how could he beat Mayweather. Im not saying thats the case, just throwing it out there.

[liverkiller]

I think Cotto should be mentioned in the mix as well... Mosley, Pac, or Cotto. I say 15m. Mosley's style would be boring against Floyds. Pac has a very entertaining style to watch has a chance of a knockout. Cotto could give a great challenge and could possibly bring out the slugfest in floyd. I say pay him....