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Originally posted by trainhard_187 View PostIm not trying to disrespect Hatton or his loyal fans from the UK. All im trying to state is that Pac has taken the tough road to get to where he is at and feels he deserves what he feels he deserves. Just like alot of us especially those in the U.S. who have busted their asses for these corporations who ended up failing. We only want what we deserve after the blood sweat and tears.
mickeyb's slum dweller comment was unfortunate. But it goes to show how many like him, view Manny like that. These people cant seem to come to terms with themselves that an oriental man is the King of boxing today and is about to receive more money than their well-pampered and protected hero. I pity them, as I have so many workmates like them. They believe so much in themselves that anything good about other people outside their community are just hypes.
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Originally posted by JourneymanUK View PostMy last comment was for mickeyb, but I do understand what you are saying. It is just very sad to see that many people here can see Hatton's brit fans impact on the financial aspect of the negotiation but not Pacquiao's non-Filipino followers. You don't even have to include Filipino's travelling from PI to LV as the numbers they contribute are almost negligible. They should be comparing the $$ numbers that Manny's worldwide followings bring to the table the way they bring up RH's UK support, just to be fair.
mickeyb's slum dweller comment was unfortunate. But it goes to show how many like him, view Manny like that. These people cant seem to come to terms with themselves that an oriental man is the King of boxing today and is about to receive more money than their well-pampered and protected hero. I pity them, as I have so many workmates like them. They believe so much in themselves that anything good about other people outside their community are just hypes.
Pac is getting there, and his first big big revenue fight was DLH but to this point Hatton brings in more revenue period. i mean they did a 12 million live gate for frickin lazcano..
if i do a good job, and bring in 20million
and u do a great job and bring in 10 million, most employers would pay me more regardless of how great you do your job.
sure pac's value has increased lately.
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Originally posted by jreckoning View PostHatton brings in more worldwide and more consistently.
Pac is getting there, and his first big big revenue fight was DLH but to this point Hatton brings in more revenue period. i mean they did a 12 million live gate for frickin lazcano..
if i do a good job, and bring in 20million
and u do a great job and bring in 10 million, most employers would pay me more regardless of how great you do your job.
sure pac's value has increased lately.
If only MGM grand has 50K seats, it would have been filled to the rafters with every pacquiao fight and this 55K boasting of Hatton v Lascano would not have been used always as bargaining chips.
For those that do not know, may I remind you that the tickets for any Pacquiao fights cost on average way more than the tickets those 55K people paid to see Hatton fight Lazcano.
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Originally posted by trainhard_187 View PostSo your saying even though you close the deal with customers your other mediocre employee should get the credit even though he brought him in but didnt push the sale? If thats the case then your a fool.
Hatton is mediocre, Pac gets the job done in extreme fashion. Hatton is going to bring in the huge PPV's cause he is fighting Pac and its an interesting matchup that UK fans want to see. So Pac is also drawing in the UK fans cause if Hatton was a huge draw in the UK fans then his last fight with Paulie would of done 1mil UK buys and not of been FREE on HBO in the U.S.
Listen man, im not saying Hatton sucks, im just trying to get your bias self to think outside the box.
Your last comment about the slum dweller just capitalizes your ignorance.
Originally posted by JourneymanUK View PostWell, a tongue like that gives you away, to be honest. This slum dweller you are referring to, only wants what he thinks is deservedly his. Is he asking for more than what he thinks is right?
You're right Hatton should fight somebody else rather than admit that there is one person out there that deserves more than he does right now, unfortunately he was once a slum dweller, unlike where Hatton and his fans come from. The reality of the world we live in today...full of them.
Originally posted by trainhard_187 View PostIm not trying to disrespect Hatton or his loyal fans from the UK. All im trying to state is that Pac has taken the tough road to get to where he is at and feels he deserves what he feels he deserves. Just like alot of us especially those in the U.S. who have busted their asses for these corporations who ended up failing. We only want what we deserve after the blood sweat and tears.
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Originally posted by JourneymanUK View PostIf worldwide for you means UK then you are right.
If only MGM grand has 50K seats, it would have been filled to the rafters with every pacquiao fight and this 55K boasting of Hatton v Lascano would not have been used always as bargaining chips.
For those that do not know, may I remind you that the tickets for any Pacquiao fights cost on average way more than the tickets those 55K people paid to see Hatton fight Lazcano.
And uk revenue is more than international revenue pac brings in. by itself.
domestically in the usa , it will do fine but not amazing.
his fight's success hinges on what hatton can deliver and it's a lot.
i like the 50.50 deal. if they wanna get cute, give pac more of domestic revenue in the us, and give hatton a higher percentage of uk revenue and the like, and i guarantee hatton will make more money.
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Originally posted by JourneymanUK View PostIf worldwide for you means UK then you are right.
If only MGM grand has 50K seats, it would have been filled to the rafters with every pacquiao fight and this 55K boasting of Hatton v Lascano would not have been used always as bargaining chips.
For those that do not know, may I remind you that the tickets for any Pacquiao fights cost on average way more than the tickets those 55K people paid to see Hatton fight Lazcano.
Since when did Hatton fans care about expense, when they're flying to Vegas for every bout.
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Originally posted by mickeyb View PostOr you could jsut look at it more simply.
Say Hatton brings 40 million to the table, Pac brings 25 million to the table. Coming together they get to share out 65 million. Regardless of how you stand in P4P rankings (which, let's remind each other, are all down to your interpretation and opinion). If Hatton is bringing more bread to the table, then even at 50/50 he is losing out. 50/50 is a good deal. Pac is greedy.
Hatton should fight elsewhere, fu.ck that slum dweller
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