look hypocrite stanley, boxing fans, not fighter fans like yourself, hold all fighters to the same standard,
fight the best.
Ricky hatton is jr welter who never had an impressive fight at welterweight.
Why do you keep defending your guy when he takes on less than the best opposition when he is supposedly the best fighter in the world?
When ali talked about being the greatest, he went out and fought the best guys around. He didn't *****foot and make excuses. Win or lose, he at least tried to prove his point.
hatton challenged him. Floyd is the man, therefore he decides the stipulations of the fight. After watching that fight between hatton and floyd...do u really honestly think it would have made a difference at 140? It possibly couldhave been even worst for hatton. 2ndly hatton was considered 1 of the best of boxing...he still is!!! At the time of fight, hatton was held in higher regard in the boxing community than margarito or cotto. P4p he was ranked higher!!!
hatton challenged him. Floyd is the man, therefore he decides the stipulations of the fight. After watching that fight between hatton and floyd...do u really honestly think it would have made a difference at 140? It possibly couldhave been even worst for hatton. 2ndly hatton was considered 1 of the best of boxing...he still is!!! At the time of fight, hatton was held in higher regard in the boxing community than margarito or cotto. P4p he was ranked higher!!!
Was Hatton ever one of the best at 147?
Because last I checked, thats who Floyd made his only defense against.
This article is the ether to Horus entire existence.
In the summer of 2006, Antonio Margarito confronted Floyd Mayweather in Las Vegas at a press conference and asked the self-proclaimed best fighter in history about a fight together and why Floyd was ducking and dodging Bob Arum’s hefty offers to box him. Floyd, face quivering, said the fight didn’t make business sense at the time and that in the future he would fight Margarito, “You get your shot, you get your shot,” promised Mayweather. Sitting in a chair looking up at Margarito, Floyd reached out to hold Margarito’s hand, as if the handshake on top of his word bound the promise as a deal. Mano a Mano, Floyd was promising Margarito a future fight. (See “Margarito confronts Mayweather.”)
But now we know it was a lie and Floyd is a liar. HBO is said to be very interested in making Mayweather vs. Margarito for 2008 or early 2009 but a source fairly close to Mayweather has said, on the record, Floyd vs. Margarito “will never happen. Never.”
Of course, it comes as no surprise to many boxing followers who are keen on Mayweather’s perpetual ducking and dodging of tough fights despite his contradictory and misleading public statements. Case in point, see how Mayweather vilified Margarito in the media…
“I don’t know who (Margarito) is.”
“Margarito would be easy work. If Bob shows me the money, I’ll fight anybody anywhere. If it makes dollars it makes sense.”
“(Margarito is) levels below me. I’ll punish him for being on the level he is. I’ll punish him for disrespecting my team.”
“Bob Arum is the greatest promoter in history. I love Bob Arum. I love HBO.”
“My team calls all the shots out of the ring, I call them in the ring.”
“Maybe I can fight Margarito next - if I pick his name out of the hat.”
“Who has Margarito beaten to deserve a shot at me? Once he beat two or three big names then we’ll fight.”
“Me and Margarito, we’re not fighting to prove to the boxing fans who the best is.”
“I don’t duck or dodge anybody.”
“But you got to realize this: I’m an A level, I’m an A level opponent, Oscar De La Hoya’s an A level, Floyd Mayweather’s an A level, I mean Margarito is a, he got D level fighters. He had Bob Arum, he got D level fighters. You know without, be honest, without Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya, I mean, what is Top Rank, honestly?”
“I mean, the fight with Henry Bruseles - somebody had to give him a chance. You know, everybody gives, I mean, how will we ever know how good a person is till you give them a chance? Somebody had to give him that chance. So I gave him that chance.”
“Who is Margarito? He don’t bring **** to the table.”
“Like I said before, I grabbed boxing fans and asked who is this guy (Margarito) and they didn’t even know who he was.”
“Like I said before I beat Margarito’s ass any day of the week. If this is the fight the fans want to see so be it. Margarito don’t dictate what I do. Don’t no one know who Margarito is.”
“I have more respect for Genaro Hernandez than anybody. Because that was the start of everything. He gave me a chance. I have more respect for Genaro Hernandez than any fighter. Anybody that gives me a chance I have respect for.”
“Margarito - he’s an average fighter. Why would I be scared of him?”
“You know me I’m running my mouth a lot and I’m looking for a guy to shut me up. If you don’t shut me up I’m going to keep running my mouth. Nobody can beat me, there is no way to beat me.”
“I know when someone is tailor-made for me, that I will punish.”
“I want to beat the best out there and whoever is considered the top fighters of my era.”
“I don’t really want to talk about this guy (Margarito). Because I see things that Bob Arum does that don’t make any sense. He says I’m the best fighter in the business, I’m the best fighter since Muhammad Ali. But then he’s talking about me ducking and dodging a fighter. He kicks me out of his boxing gym, then he wants me to fight his fighter (Margarito). How can you talk about doing future business with me if you’re conducting yourself with disorderly conduct?”
“It’s a smart business decision to not fight you now but we will down the road.” (Floyd said this to Margarito’s face while holding his hand, after Margarito confronted him at the Mayorga-De La Hoya press conference in May.)
(Judah’s) already beaten. He’s beat mentally. I just have to do the physical part. I beat every fighter mentally before I beat him physically. There is no on stronger than me mentally.”
“I’m not in the game for just the money, I’m in the game to be a legend. And give the fans and media all around the world exciting fights.”
“(To the media after defeating Carlos Baldomir in Nov.) I love the sport. One more fight and I’m through. I don’t need boxing. I’m not in it for the money. It’s about legacy. I’m rich and I’ve accomplished what I want.”
“They talk about Floyd Mayweather duckin’ and dodgin’ opponents. Listen. I’m trying to fight the number one guy. If the number one guy can’t fight, then I’m fightin’ the number two guy. If I can’t fight number two, I’m fighting number three.”
“I just dish out ass whoopin’s.”
“From 154 on down I tear everyone’s ass up.”
“I don’t know who Paul Williams is. But I hear he’s a pretty good young fighter.”
Leonard Ellerbe: “Margarito has four losses, why should we fight a guy with four losses?” (A few months later Mayweather signed to fight 35-year-old Carlos Baldomir, who had NINE losses.)
So after all those denigrating words about Margarito, now we learn that Floyd will not keep his word and will “never” fight Margarito.
For well over two years it’s been suspected by a few that Mayweather was scared and frightened of Antonio Margarito. But the Floyd-loyalists refused to accept it, No man who steps in those ropes is afraid. Floyd just be waiting for it to be a big money fight. Etc.
Well, it’s a fact now. Even Roger Mayweather can’t hide or deny the truth any longer. Floyd is flat-out scared, 100% fearful of the knockout beating he will endure at the hands of Margarito. Those boxing skills are guided by a man without the heart or the courage to test those skills against a relentless ferocious brute force like Antonio Margarito. Margarito is so fearsome, Mayweather will not fight him, it’s non-negotiable. No price is high enough, nothing in the world is going to persuade Floyd to make the fight boxing fans, the media and HBO want to see most of all.
And that will be the legacy of Mayweather, a talented boxer, a multiple title-holder who ducked and dodged and feared to face the most formidable challenges of his career.
As for the inevitable comeback of Mayweather against another handpicked safe opponent, any TV network would be foolishly mistaken to pay this manufactured fraud anything close to what he demands. Negotiations should be simple, Floyd you take what we offer you. You have no leverage after so openly avoiding Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. Your market value has severely depreciated.
There just is no public demand to see Floyd face anyone now but Margarito, the man he once vilified in the media. Oscar vs. Floyd is just a set-up exhibition between two men who fear Margarito. What would Oscar vs. Floyd II be billed as? How about “The Battle of the Chickens.”
Personally, I think Mayweather and his ducking ways should be banned from boxing. His lousy fights against handpicked opposition give boxing a bad name and if permitted to continue could do even more irreparable damage. MMA is too entertaining an option now for boxing fans to give their time and hard-earned dollars to. At this important time in boxing history, Boxing must give the fans real, competitive intriguing fights. And garbage fights like Oscar vs. Floyd II should not even be considered let alone offered to the public as first-class, five-star sporting entertainment.
If Mayweather can’t find the courage or motivation to face the greatest challenge of his career, let him stay in hiding I mean retirement.
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Because last I checked, thats who Floyd made his only defense against.
a Junior welter.
Ricky Hatton was a WBA welter Weight Champion am I wrong???
I didnt know you had to look impressive in winning a championship belt in order to be taken seriously as a champion...
I thought if you beat the champion for his belt then you are a champion???
By that Standard how many champions can we say are not real champions because they didnt look impressive when they won their belts???
You say Ricky Hatton is a Junior Welterweight because he fought most of his career there...
But Floyd has had 39 Fights in which 31 fights were at 135 and under.
Only 8 Fights were at 140 and up.
Ricky Hatton had more fights at 140 AND UP then Floyd did...
Both Floyd and Ricky Hatton were Welter Weight Champions.
Floyd started at 130
Ricky Started at 140
According to you Floyd and Ricky Hatton never fought any good welterweight champions.
So that leads to the Conclusion that Floyd's Run at Welterweight just like Ricky Hatton's wasnt impressive....Because they never fought anybody....
So If Floyd wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights....
What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???
Just like you want to discredit Floyd win over Ricky Hatton because he wasnt impressive at welterweight....and a junior welter weight because he fought most of his career there....
Well Floyd fought most of his career at 135 and under...
So What does a Floyd win mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight because he is really a light weight since he spent most of his career there???
Ricky Hatton was a WBA welter Weight Champion am I wrong???
I didnt know you had to look impressive in winning a championship belt in order to be taken seriously as a champion...
I thought if you beat the champion for his belt then you are a champion???
By that Standard how many champions can we say are not real champions because they didnt look impressive when they won their belts???
You say Ricky Hatton is a Junior Welterweight because he fought most of his career there...
But Floyd has had 39 Fights in which 31 fights were at 135 and under.
Only 8 Fights were at 140 and up.
Ricky Hatton had more fights at 140 AND UP then Floyd did...
Both Floyd and Ricky Hatton were Welter Weight Champions.
Floyd started at 130
Ricky Started at 140
According to you Floyd and Ricky Hatton never fought any good welterweight champions.
So that leads to the Conclusion that Floyd's Run at Welterweight just like Ricky Hatton's wasnt impressive....Because they never fought anybody....
So If Floyd wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights....
What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???
Just like you want to discredit Floyd win over Ricky Hatton because he wasnt impressive at welterweight....and a junior welter weight because he fought most of his career there....
Well Floyd fought most of his career at 135 and under...
So What does a Floyd win mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight because he is really a light weight since he spent most of his career there???
you HYPOCRITE..!!!
We beat a dead horse daily. What you have said is common sense, but common sense isnt common, if it was we would all have it.
We beat a dead horse daily. What you have said is common sense, but common sense isnt common, if it was we would all have it.
It crazy to me how ****** these dudes sound....they say
Ricky Hatton is a Junior Welterweight because he fought most of his career there...
But Floyd has had 39 Fights in which 31 fights were at 135 and under.
Only 8 Fights were at 140 and up.
Ricky Hatton had more fights at 140 AND UP then Floyd did...
And then they shoot themselves in the foot by saying
Ricky Hatton never fought any good welterweight champions.
And Floyd hasnt fought any REAL welterweight champions.
So that leads to the Conclusion that Floyd's Run at Welterweight just like Ricky Hatton's wasnt impressive....Because they never fought anybody....
So If Floyd wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights....
What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???
Floyd Mayweather : The ‘Sweet Science’
Steve Coleman
For me what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.
In Boxing defense is not often given the credit it deserves and Floyd's defense is one of the best that I have ever seen. The only other boxers whose defense is similar in some respects is James Toney.
1. Mayweather's defense
Key to Mayweather's defense is the fact that he is always moving as well as the rhythm,speed and smoothness of his movements, this is what makes this defense effective.
All the while his opponent is punching.
Floyd is
rolling,
slipping,
pivoting at the waist,
feinting,
bobbing and weaving,
constantly displaying various ‘modes’ of movement .
The rhythm of the rolling is very interesting because most opponents alternate their punches in a very predictable way, only occasionally doubling up with the same hand in the middle of flurries.
When his body is turned to his right Floyd's left shoulder usually rolls up high to deflect punches and sometimes additionally he uses his left arm to deflect punches, it depends on the angle of the punch. Shots to this left side of his body are usually deflected upward and/or in front of him. When Mayweather's body is turned to the left his right hand is held up high with his elbow tucked in, so these shots get blocked also, a few well placed body shots can get in but Floyd is already rolling after the first punch connects.
On the rare occasion where a fighter does double up with the same hand Floyd usually catches this and improvises by adjusting his rhythm with a series of 'changes of direction' in his rolling. The thing to notice is the timing, all fighters have a rhythm to their movements which can be timed by an experienced opponent after several rounds of boxing. 2.Two different overall rhythmic forms:
the rhythm of offensive motion
the rhythm of defensive motion.
There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
(preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.
However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.
3.The name of the game is not aggressiveness, it is 'effective aggressiveness'.
Most of Floyd's Opponents punches get deflected and do not do much damage. Also use up a lot of energy in the process.
It is tiring and frustrating to punch at a target that constantly making you miss.
What constantly surprises me is the ignorance of the HBO commentators Jim Lampley,and Larry Merchant They kept talking about that Floyd should stay off the ropes. Now these HBO cats have seen so many fights they should know certain techniques by now.
4.Floyd Rest on The Ropes:
First of all Floyd get's hit with very few punches when he is on the ropes. Many times during Floyd's fights Floyd would rest while letting His Opponents flail away at him, this is a calculated ploy that only works because of the nature of Floyd's defensive skills.
Sometimes Floyd lays on the ropes, sometimes he stands in the middle of the ring right in front of his opponent, in neither case opponents rarely actually connects with thier punches in significant numbers.
Floyd's sense of the flow of a fight is fantastic.
5.Staying 'in the pocket',
When Floyd stands 'in the pocket', meaning that Mayweather was so close to His Opponent that they can not get the proper leverage on their punches.
There is an optimum distance that most fighters need to execute effectively.
6.The Science of Floyd's Offense
Offensively Floyd, 'place' his shots, he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
With many other top fighters this is not the case.
It is a natural reflex to close your eyes when an object is coming at your face and great boxers train to counter this tendency.
In the Joel Casamayor vs. Diego Corrales fight both boxers had defensive lapses while concentrating on offensive and there were moments when both fighters closed their eyes while punching.
Shane Mosley also closed his eyes a lot and flinched when Vernon Forrest had him against the ropes.
7.The Science of Movement
Changes of speed and direction, pivoting and spinning, dipping, rocking, backpedaling, sidestepping, feinting, weaving, side-slipping, angles––all are part of a repertoire of constantly shifting balancing mannerisms designed to alter the perspective of the observer, a kind of slick motion geometry. I call these various types of counterbalancing movement techniques ‘modalities of rhythm’.
This tradition has always been passed down from master to student mainly through experiencing the ‘feel’ of these modalities as well as using analogy to pass on information. However it is the insights that are gained through these experiences and the ability to execute that creates masters.
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