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Originally posted by RisAri0 View PostGood point on that quintana fight, I feel he underestimated him that night. But yea I'm glad he's fighting Winky for experience purposes and also to have a name on his resume if he wins which I believe he will.
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He has great skill and one of the best, but he should have lost the fight with castillo, he never fought kostya tzyu, cotto, mosely, margarito. he has a protected record and in my opinion, fighters with a 0 loss record is because they haven't been fighting the right competition. and is it a coincidence that he happened to leave boxing while pac was moving up? i don't think so. i don't think he wants anything to do with pac.
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Originally posted by a-raines21 View Postanother fight fan. watch mma if you wanna see a fight. watch floyd mayweather if you wanna see art
Up until his last fight with Hatton, i really didnt like seeing him and his "Art" lessons going the distance with punk c-level fighters he should have put away in 5 rounds. Art is a good thing, but sometimes also boring and ugly to look at. A masterpiece is something totally different......and that was his last fight.....
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View PostHe has great skill and one of the best, but he should have lost the fight with castillo, he never fought kostya tzyu, cotto, mosely, margarito. he has a protected record and in my opinion, fighters with a 0 loss record is because they haven't been fighting the right competition. and is it a coincidence that he happened to leave boxing while pac was moving up? i don't think so. i don't think he wants anything to do with pac.
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Originally posted by mrlopez View PostMore like abstract art bro.....
Up until his last fight with Hatton, i really didnt like seeing him and his "Art" lessons going the distance with punk c-level fighters he should have put away in 5 rounds. Art is a good thing, but sometimes also boring and ugly to look at. A masterpiece is something totally different......and that was his last fight.....
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View PostHe has great skill and one of the best, but he should have lost the fight with castillo, he never fought kostya tzyu, cotto, mosely, margarito. he has a protected record and in my opinion, fighters with a 0 loss record is because they haven't been fighting the right competition. and is it a coincidence that he happened to leave boxing while pac was moving up? i don't think so. i don't think he wants anything to do with pac.
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Originally posted by crillz View Post
- EXCUSES.. there was NO difference, to say that there was is to be unfair because that's like saying I hit you but you can't hit me, that Floyd could face a battle scarred Judah, 1 whom had been knocked out before, 1 who had lost to a complete unknown with like 9 or 10 losses prior to his fight with Floyd and was basically the same man in both fights in both Floyd and Cotto and people want to make it excusable for Floyd fighting him and then bash Cotto for it. it's a **** rider thing because Zab himself said he would be in the best shape of his life, that in "his mind" this was his last chance and a good one to beat Cotto and come back strong, he even performed in that way by hurting Cotto and nearly dropping him JUST as he dropped Floyd a year before, all in all it's a bull**** cop out to try and justify Floyd taking on a meaningless fight and bash Cotto for taking one that at the time made a lot of sense for him. these are clear excuses from you because what is it, he wasn't the same or he got low blowed? these are random things said to take credit from Miguel who on that day was taking a step up in class who as opposed to Mayweather just 1 year prior took a step down in class by fighting Judah..
Oh yeh, Floyd apparently bypassed the 'biggest' fights... Cotto, Margarito and Mosley... none of these fights are bigger than Floyd vs Oscar. The only guy Floyd should have faced was Margarito... A Floyd fight was offered to Cotto at light welter but was refused.
- yea you're 100% right, but only if you're a sell out who doesn't give a **** about what the fans want who pay to see you, when you looking for the least risk for the most money and then walk away when there's no more easy but passable bait available then of course Oscar is a bigger fight but when you give the people who pay your bills the fights they want to see and conduct yourself as a true champion, fight everyone that anybody thinks can beat you then NO Oscar ISN'T the biggest fight for you because nobody had many doubts that Floyd would win, I sure as hell didn't. but he took it anyway and NOT because if he really wanted to win a belt in another weight class against a champion who was currently on his level he would have fought a different champion, he went up there for $$$ strictly and NOT glory because if it wasn't a fight with De La Hoya he would never have moved up, he wouldn't have fought a good Vernon Forrest for HIS belt but he would fight a washed up fighter who only had his name to offer in the fight, truth is the title didn't matter because had he not had that easy fight to cherry pick he wouldn't ever have gone to 154..
also answer me this, how is it that you are willing to face Cotto at 140 where he was CLEARLY killing himself to make weight, he would have made chump change for the fight and Cotto was still unpolished at least compared to what he is today, you mean to tell me he is willing to fight him for peanuts when he is barely making a solid name for himself as some regular contender killing himself to make weight to a point where his mouth is wide open but you wouldn't face him as a champion at his most comfortable and strong weight after proving to the Boxing world what he can do, after building a fan base so that he could have generated millions and been a hard opponent who'd bring you a fight but you would face him at a lower weight where he is clearly not the same for fractions less of what you would have made with him in today's day and age and then have the nerve to think people are ****** enough not to see right threw him when he says money is the reason he didn't face Cotto when he was willing to fight him for a whole lot less yet with a substantial difference in overall ability, where he would have been a walk in the park but once he proves himself and showed what he can do suddenly he needs more money? so you was down to fight him at his weak weight but when the time arises for you to face a healthy and ready Cotto who at the time was an undefeated champion you start talking **** about money? justify that one buddy because I see no justification
You obviously think nothing of Floyd as a fighter, hence why you proberbly wont even care what i've written.
-Contrary to what you saying I enjoy watching Mayweather fight, I even lost my voice cheering for him in a bar full of people rooting for Hatton, what I feel is disappointment in Floyd for not putting better use to his skills, that at least if you gonna pop shot and pitter pat then float to a win at least do it against the best and don't sit here and yank the money out of our hands, the fans who dead ass believed you would regulate like you did at 130 and had that thought for you. he's too skilled to be inactive man, Boxing is a mans sports dogz Arthur Abraham handed Edison Miranda his 1st loss with a broken jaw, Roy Jones beat Bernard Hopkins with an injured right hand and to uphold their status at each respective time they had to endure and overcome, Floyd is a fighter too and he shouldn't be spared of the same responsibility because once you reach a certain juncture THAT'S what it takes to remain on top but if you coppin out everytime when talks of a real fight happens and then jump up for the mismatches you taint your own legacy, not me ***** YOU.. u understand now? I KNOW Floyd is probably the most skilled fighter in the world for the last decade but what the **** is being skilled worth when you aren't facing the men who can truly put those skills to the test?
I dont understand How people constantly hold Floyd to the latter part of his career. Like His Career started in 2006.
People act Like 1996-2005 Never Took Place.- Professional: 39 fights; 39+ (25 KO)
- 31 Fights at 140 and under
- 8 fights at 154 and under
- Champion for 10 years
- Champions Fought:13
- Champions Fought in their prime:8
- 1998-2002: W.B.C. Juniorlightweight (8 title defenses)
- 2002-2003: W.B.C. Lightweight ( 3 title defense)
- 2005: W.B.C. Juniorwelterweight
- 2006: I.B.F. Welterweight
- 2006-2008: W.B.C. Welterweight
- 2007: W.B.C. Juniormiddleweights
People Say All Mayweather has Never been in any Wars with a Prime P4P Opponent:
But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jesus Chavez 35-1.in 2001.
People Say Mayweather has never fought Somebody who would have to make him fight
But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jose Luis Castillo 2002.
Jesus Chavez 35-1 (TOP 5 in the division)
Carlos Hernandez 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Justin Juuko 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Angel Manfredy 25-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Carlos Gerena 34-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Diego Corrales 33-0 (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION) Top 5 p4p
Genaro Hernandez 38-1(CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)
Jose Luis Castillo (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)
Why People think he is the best
Those who argue that Mayweather is boxing’s best all-around fighter and arguably the best defensive fighter ever, point to his dominance over his opposition. Few fighters have ever been as statistically superior to his opponents than Mayweather, who rarely loses rounds, much less fights. A recent CompuBox analysis determined that the “Pretty Boy” leads the sport in “plus-minus” rating – and not by a little. The “plus-minus” is the difference between a fighter’s average connect percentage and that of his opponents, and Mayweather’s plus-30 (46 percent to 16 percent) \
Mayweather’s rating compares favorably to the prime Roy Jones and Pernell Whitaker- Mayweather’s (plus-30)
- Roy Jones (plus-23)
- Pernell Whitaker (plus-16).
Let’s take it a step further and look at Floyd’s stats from 18 of his title fights tracked by CompuBox, compared to the numbers put up by fellow defensive-minded superstars- Floyd Mayweather (18 title fights from ’98-‘07)
- Roy Jones (18 title fights from ’93-‘02)
- Pernell Whitaker (18 title fights from ’89-‘97).
Floyd averaged 45 total punches thrown per round, landing 46%. His 18 opponents landed 22% of their total punches. Using the CompuBox plus/minus system, Floyd came in at +24. That number was derived by subtracting the opponents connect pct. (22%) from Mayweather’s connect pct. (46%).
The in his prime “Mr. Jones” scored a +20. Like Floyd, he got off 45 total punches per round, landing 48%. His 17 opponents landed 28%, 6% higher than Floyd’s. Like Floyd, Jones averaged 14 jabs thrown per round, but only landed 22%.
Sweat Pea registered a +16. He was busier than Mayweather and Jones in those 18 title fights, averaging 62 total punches thrown per round, landing 44%. As a result of Pete’s busyness, opponents landed 28% of their total punches. Of Whitaker’s 62 total punches thrown per round, half were jabs, 42% landed.
Rather select company for the Pretty Boy and better overall numbers too.
Last edited by Horus; 01-08-2009, 05:09 PM.
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Real boxing fans appreciate these things,they know Floyd is the best boxer.
The name of the sport is boxing not just slugging.Floyd is just too good and way ahead of his time.Years from now you will all reflect on how good this guy was
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