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    Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
    If you ever decide that money isn't really at the top of your priority list, you might want to think about getting a grad/PhD degree in sociology and teaching it at the University level... I can't imagine that you wouldn't enjoy it, especially if you taught upper level classes.

    My professor (female) is definitely afraid to tell anyone they are wrong, and loves the gender aspect of it, which is definitely not my cup of tea.

    By the way... Kanye West is a complete *******. I used to love him, but him saying **** like, "My biggest regret in life is that I will never be able to see myself perform live." absolutely disgusts me. I mean, really Kanye... you were really good when you came out, but you are not a lyrical genius, and your albums have been dropping quality in giant strides with each new release. Get the **** over yourself.

    I just generally am a music enthusiast... as a matter of fact, my last four songs I listened to in the past 10 minutes have no pattern at all:

    Aaliyah - Back & Forth
    Paramore - That's What You Get
    Lil' Wayne & Birdman - Stuntin' Like My Daddy
    Lifehouse - First Time

    To hell with the people who will have you believe they are all-knowing enough to order people into categories of what they believe each person should like. It's ridiculous.

    EDIT: To answer your bottom question in your edited post, it is obviously the white kid in Compton who has more relation to that kind of struggle. But on the opposite side, a random kid from there is more likely to be black than white... it's a shame that it's true that blacks find themselves in poverty more often than whites, but... it's definitely a sign that there is still much more work to do to clean up society as a whole.
    Kanye West is a complete *******. I used to love him, but him saying **** like, "My biggest regret in life is that I will never be able to see myself perform live." absolutely disgusts me.

    LMAO...........Wow
    kanye west is a fool. But i think he does it more for shock value more than anything else. you know. this kind if **** gets him mad attention, and it works

    CLASSIC: "**** MTV AND GIVE A BLACK MAN A CHANCE RANT"







    This is why People who are *******s can relate to him or better yet people believe him when he makes music like this because it seems authentic




    My dude I LOVE MUSIC....all music.
    i think music is the 1 thing the whole world can relate too
    Last edited by Horus; 04-07-2009, 03:03 AM.

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      Originally posted by Horus View Post
      good answer.
      but there is technically no such thing as race.

      but what ethic group do you fall under?
      So if just a construct what does it matter? Race/Ethnicity are the same thing. Are you just curious?

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        Originally posted by poontango View Post
        So if just a construct what does it matter? Race/Ethnicity are the same thing. Are you just curious?
        i am just curious thats all

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          You forgot #8 - The Judges, they have to be paid off after watching the Castillo fight, Floyd looked like shyt! He lost that fight BIG time!
          Originally posted by Horus View Post
          Floyd Mayweather : The ‘Sweet Science’
          Steve Coleman

          For me what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

          In Boxing defense is not often given the credit it deserves and Floyd's defense is one of the best that I have ever seen. The only other boxers whose defense is similar in some respects is James Toney.

          1. Mayweather's defense



          Key to Mayweather's defense is the fact that he is always moving as well as the rhythm,speed and smoothness of his movements, this is what makes this defense effective.

          All the while his opponent is punching.
          Floyd is
          • rolling,
          • slipping,
          • pivoting at the waist,
          • feinting,
          • bobbing and weaving,
          • constantly displaying various ‘modes’ of movement .


          The rhythm of the rolling is very interesting because most opponents alternate their punches in a very predictable way, only occasionally doubling up with the same hand in the middle of flurries.


          When his body is turned to his right Floyd's left shoulder usually rolls up high to deflect punches and sometimes additionally he uses his left arm to deflect punches, it depends on the angle of the punch. Shots to this left side of his body are usually deflected upward and/or in front of him. When Mayweather's body is turned to the left his right hand is held up high with his elbow tucked in, so these shots get blocked also, a few well placed body shots can get in but Floyd is already rolling after the first punch connects.

          On the rare occasion where a fighter does double up with the same hand Floyd usually catches this and improvises by adjusting his rhythm with a series of 'changes of direction' in his rolling. The thing to notice is the timing, all fighters have a rhythm to their movements which can be timed by an experienced opponent after several rounds of boxing.
          2.Two different overall rhythmic forms:
          1. the rhythm of offensive motion
          2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

          There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
          (preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
          the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

          However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.


          3.The name of the game is not aggressiveness, it is 'effective aggressiveness'.


          Most of Floyd's Opponents punches get deflected and do not do much damage. Also use up a lot of energy in the process.
          It is tiring and frustrating to punch at a target that constantly making you miss.

          What constantly surprises me is the ignorance of the HBO commentators Jim Lampley,and Larry Merchant They kept talking about that Floyd should stay off the ropes. Now these HBO cats have seen so many fights they should know certain techniques by now.

          4.Floyd Rest on The Ropes:

          First of all Floyd get's hit with very few punches when he is on the ropes. Many times during Floyd's fights Floyd would rest while letting His Opponents flail away at him, this is a calculated ploy that only works because of the nature of Floyd's defensive skills.

          Sometimes Floyd lays on the ropes, sometimes he stands in the middle of the ring right in front of his opponent, in neither case opponents rarely actually connects with thier punches in significant numbers.

          Floyd's sense of the flow of a fight is fantastic.

          5.Staying 'in the pocket',

          When Floyd stands 'in the pocket', meaning that Mayweather was so close to His Opponent that they can not get the proper leverage on their punches.
          There is an optimum distance that most fighters need to execute effectively.



          6.The Science of Floyd's Offense

          Offensively Floyd, 'place' his shots, he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
          With many other top fighters this is not the case.

          It is a natural reflex to close your eyes when an object is coming at your face and great boxers train to counter this tendency.

          In the Joel Casamayor vs. Diego Corrales fight both boxers had defensive lapses while concentrating on offensive and there were moments when both fighters closed their eyes while punching.

          Shane Mosley also closed his eyes a lot and flinched when Vernon Forrest had him against the ropes.

          7.The Science of Movement

          Changes of speed and direction, pivoting and spinning, dipping, rocking, backpedaling, sidestepping, feinting, weaving, side-slipping, angles––all are part of a repertoire of constantly shifting balancing mannerisms designed to alter the perspective of the observer, a kind of slick motion geometry. I call these various types of counterbalancing movement techniques ‘modalities of rhythm’.

          This tradition has always been passed down from master to student mainly through experiencing the ‘feel’ of these modalities as well as using analogy to pass on information. However it is the insights that are gained through these experiences and the ability to execute that creates masters.


          Floyd Mayweather Has Mastered The ‘Sweet Science’



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            Originally posted by optkliluzn View Post
            You forgot #8 - The Judges, they have to be paid off after watching the Castillo fight, Floyd looked like shyt! He lost that fight BIG time!
            Lol listen i have seen that fight at least 10 times.
            Floyd won the 1st 6 rounds Clearly
            so that means no matter what Floyd was going to get a draw or a WIN...if he didnt get knockout.
            no matter matter what


            Some judges score Workrate
            Some judges Score effective and clean punches
            Some judges score ring generalship

            So that means you have three different people looking for possibly three different things when they are watching the fight.

            So you can say Casitllo outwork floyd for the secondhalf of the fight.
            but you cant say he landed the more clean and effective punches throughout the whole fight.
            and you cant say he had better ring generalship throughout the whole fight.


            Floyd clearly won the first 6 rounds....
            so think about that, and tell me how could casitllo could have won the fight without knocking floyd down or knocking him out.?

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              Originally posted by Horus View Post
              Floyd Mayweather : The ‘Sweet Science’
              Steve Coleman

              For me what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

              In Boxing defense is not often given the credit it deserves and Floyd's defense is one of the best that I have ever seen. The only other boxers whose defense is similar in some respects is James Toney.

              1. Mayweather's defense



              Key to Mayweather's defense is the fact that he is always moving as well as the rhythm,speed and smoothness of his movements, this is what makes this defense effective.

              All the while his opponent is punching.
              Floyd is
              • rolling,
              • slipping,
              • pivoting at the waist,
              • feinting,
              • bobbing and weaving,
              • constantly displaying various ‘modes’ of movement .


              The rhythm of the rolling is very interesting because most opponents alternate their punches in a very predictable way, only occasionally doubling up with the same hand in the middle of flurries.


              When his body is turned to his right Floyd's left shoulder usually rolls up high to deflect punches and sometimes additionally he uses his left arm to deflect punches, it depends on the angle of the punch. Shots to this left side of his body are usually deflected upward and/or in front of him. When Mayweather's body is turned to the left his right hand is held up high with his elbow tucked in, so these shots get blocked also, a few well placed body shots can get in but Floyd is already rolling after the first punch connects.

              On the rare occasion where a fighter does double up with the same hand Floyd usually catches this and improvises by adjusting his rhythm with a series of 'changes of direction' in his rolling. The thing to notice is the timing, all fighters have a rhythm to their movements which can be timed by an experienced opponent after several rounds of boxing.
              2.Two different overall rhythmic forms:
              1. the rhythm of offensive motion
              2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

              There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
              (preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
              the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

              However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.


              3.The name of the game is not aggressiveness, it is 'effective aggressiveness'.


              Most of Floyd's Opponents punches get deflected and do not do much damage. Also use up a lot of energy in the process.
              It is tiring and frustrating to punch at a target that constantly making you miss.

              What constantly surprises me is the ignorance of the HBO commentators Jim Lampley,and Larry Merchant They kept talking about that Floyd should stay off the ropes. Now these HBO cats have seen so many fights they should know certain techniques by now.

              4.Floyd Rest on The Ropes:

              First of all Floyd get's hit with very few punches when he is on the ropes. Many times during Floyd's fights Floyd would rest while letting His Opponents flail away at him, this is a calculated ploy that only works because of the nature of Floyd's defensive skills.

              Sometimes Floyd lays on the ropes, sometimes he stands in the middle of the ring right in front of his opponent, in neither case opponents rarely actually connects with thier punches in significant numbers.

              Floyd's sense of the flow of a fight is fantastic.

              5.Staying 'in the pocket',

              When Floyd stands 'in the pocket', meaning that Mayweather was so close to His Opponent that they can not get the proper leverage on their punches.
              There is an optimum distance that most fighters need to execute effectively.



              6.The Science of Floyd's Offense

              Offensively Floyd, 'place' his shots, he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
              With many other top fighters this is not the case.

              It is a natural reflex to close your eyes when an object is coming at your face and great boxers train to counter this tendency.

              In the Joel Casamayor vs. Diego Corrales fight both boxers had defensive lapses while concentrating on offensive and there were moments when both fighters closed their eyes while punching.

              Shane Mosley also closed his eyes a lot and flinched when Vernon Forrest had him against the ropes.

              7.The Science of Movement

              Changes of speed and direction, pivoting and spinning, dipping, rocking, backpedaling, sidestepping, feinting, weaving, side-slipping, angles––all are part of a repertoire of constantly shifting balancing mannerisms designed to alter the perspective of the observer, a kind of slick motion geometry. I call these various types of counterbalancing movement techniques ‘modalities of rhythm’.

              This tradition has always been passed down from master to student mainly through experiencing the ‘feel’ of these modalities as well as using analogy to pass on information. However it is the insights that are gained through these experiences and the ability to execute that creates masters.


              Floyd Mayweather Has Mastered The ‘Sweet Science’



              A great fighter floyd was,but when I read the title of this thread and then read its content,The only conclusion I can make is that you should stick to modifying jetskis.

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                Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                Every fighter can be beaten, Mayweather is no exception.
                Sure thing but, in his prime, tell me, who would really beat Floyd? Who? Not the Floyd who fought Oscar, not the one who fought Hatton (still very good but no longer in his very prime) the Floyd of 2005/2006, who would beat him? The Floyd who beat Hernandez. I say no one.

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                  7 reasons pacquiao wouldnt have a chance against mayweather,because floyd is better in every single department

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                    7 reason mayweather never lost
                    1.retired
                    2.fight past prime
                    3.scared to fight top caliber fighter
                    4.fight bums, fight small guys
                    5.fighting in lower division instead of welterweights
                    6.Ignoring cotto
                    7.Ignoring Shane

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                      Originally posted by silip03 View Post
                      7 reason mayweather never lost
                      1.retired
                      2.fight past prime
                      3.scared to fight top caliber fighter
                      4.fight bums, fight small guys
                      5.fighting in lower division instead of welterweights
                      6.Ignoring cotto
                      7.Ignoring Shane


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