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    #31
    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
    ****** statement. He was only stopped when he was 16 years old. He took huge shots from Marquez and took them well, recovered and still won. anyone else would have gone down, a la Casamayor. If anything the Marquez fight shows how tough his chin is.
    Not only Marquez but also Larios. Larios had Pac hurt but Pac managed to shrub it off and comeback. Even in Pacs third fight with Morales, Morales got in two straight shots which stopped Pac for a sec. The thing about Pac, hell take a punch to throw 4 or 5. Not sure how Pac would respond with constant shots to the body, something Hatton does best, but I doubt their would be moments when these two are fighting in the inside.

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      #32
      I'm kinda gettin' to like the drama between the camps. It gets everyone more and more excited before the fight. "Hype making at it's best." JAT

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        #33
        Yeah, this fight will be like Pac/Diaz but more competitive.

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          #34
          Originally posted by pacman777 View Post
          your will eat a lot of crow, hehe
          That's fine... I'm willing to take that risk. That's How I see it. One other thing I failed to mention is that in the "Paulie Vanilli" fight We saw a Hatton that had been w/ a new trainer for 6 weeks. & in the fight it was Rick who outjabbed Paulie & it was Paulie who initiated the hug fest. I expect Ricky to improve upon that effort in his 12 week camp w/ sr. I f you look at the last few fights that Pac has fought. He's fought 2 opps in DLH & Diaz who both cover up & got picked apart when pac beat them to the punch. (no movement) ( at one point oscar went over one min w/out delivering a single punch. Who can't tee off on a man who is just trying to survive... Also JMM & Morales were primarily counter punchers. Manny is usually the one initiating & pressing forward. Only in the beg of the DLH fight did he try to Pot shot & move. After rd2 that was over. Wuts he gonna do when he gets forced backwards by a fighter who never goes backwards. He's either gonna try to turn him. go backwards.. or go toe to toe. But manny usually tries to turn a guy after he delivers that jab jab left or the strright left. Manny will not be able to stand up to this. No one's ever slowed him down w/ constant body assults. taken his shot & kept coming. Psychologically it's discouraging.

          W/ all that said. I don't think manny has no shot. Manny will land sraight lefts well. I also think he will in-fight & fight off the ropes better than people think he will. (in the DLH fight he came w/ a blistering combo of like 6 or 7 punches when DLH pushed him to the ropes) The only diff is Oscar didn't compete well enough to challenge Pac. Rick will be in his Zone all night. I think manny will be in terific condition & will only tire b/c of the body punches. Otherwise will be strong thru out. But he is overmatched in this contest. 135 is his div. not 40. He will be gracious in defeat & I admre his down to earth pesonality. & Rick will be classy in victory as well. This will be the FOTY & might call for a rematch. There couldn't be 2 better personalities fighting each other.

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            #35
            Originally posted by mistermartin View Post
            That's fine... I'm willing to take that risk. That's How I see it. One other thing I failed to mention is that in the "Paulie Vanilli" fight We saw a Hatton that had been w/ a new trainer for 6 weeks. & in the fight it was Rick who outjabbed Paulie & it was Paulie who initiated the hug fest. I expect Ricky to improve upon that effort in his 12 week camp w/ sr. I f you look at the last few fights that Pac has fought. He's fought 2 opps in DLH & Diaz who both cover up & got picked apart when pac beat them to the punch. (no movement) ( at one point oscar went over one min w/out delivering a single punch. Who can't tee off on a man who is just trying to survive... Also JMM & Morales were primarily counter punchers. Manny is usually the one initiating & pressing forward. Only in the beg of the DLH fight did he try to Pot shot & move. After rd2 that was over. Wuts he gonna do when he gets forced backwards by a fighter who never goes backwards. He's either gonna try to turn him. go backwards.. or go toe to toe. But manny usually tries to turn a guy after he delivers that jab jab left or the strright left. Manny will not be able to stand up to this. No one's ever slowed him down w/ constant body assults. taken his shot & kept coming. Psychologically it's discouraging.

            W/ all that said. I don't think manny has no shot. Manny will land sraight lefts well. I also think he will in-fight & fight off the ropes better than people think he will. (in the DLH fight he came w/ a blistering combo of like 6 or 7 punches when DLH pushed him to the ropes) The only diff is Oscar didn't compete well enough to challenge Pac. Rick will be in his Zone all night. I think manny will be in terific condition & will only tire b/c of the body punches. Otherwise will be strong thru out. But he is overmatched in this contest. 135 is his div. not 40. He will be gracious in defeat & I admre his down to earth pesonality. & Rick will be classy in victory as well. This will be the FOTY & might call for a rematch. There couldn't be 2 better personalities fighting each other.
            Otherwise will be strong thru out. But he is overmatched in this contest. 135 is his div. not 40.

            Pac just proved his speed and power at 147 so it really doesnt matter if was at 135 or 140. He carries is advantages with him, I dont see Hatton getting away from Pacs speed at all. And lets not forget, Hatton fought Paulie for heaven sake, who isnt anywhere near as fast and strong as Pac.

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              #36
              Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
              Otherwise will be strong thru out. But he is overmatched in this contest. 135 is his div. not 40.

              Pac just proved his speed and power at 147 so it really doesnt matter if was at 135 or 140. He carries is advantages with him, I dont see Hatton getting away from Pacs speed at all. And lets not forget, Hatton fought Paulie for heaven sake, who isnt anywhere near as fast and strong as Pac.
              Wut does that have to do w/ the break down I just gave. 1st. He didn't prove his power at 47. He proved his pwr against a man who sat there & took punches w/ out offering up any resistance. The Paaulie camparison was to reference Hatton's return to moving his head in avoding punches. It's easy to say "it's just paulie"" after the fact. But Cotto couldn't close the deal against Paulie. & paulie was able to touch Cotto. Many thought Paulie w/ movement & superior hand speed & skills would outbox Rick. He didn't. He avoided his best punch (jab. which is very good & sharp) Out jabbed him. Was able to neutralize his movement & slickness. U telling me manny is slick now. All his does is an in & out & turn. That's not making people miss. Albeit. He does it well. ut it won't matter b/c Ricky can close the distance easy. We'll see in 5 months but Ricky hasn't faced anybody like Rick. Rick has faced the best in the world b4. Wut exactly are his advantages besides handspeed again???

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                #37
                DLH's face looked like **** after the forbes fight. It looked worse than the Pac fight. SO wut does that prove. DLH came in weighing less than PAc. WTF. When was the LAst time DLH won a big fight. He's a part time fighter. Everybody thought we were gonna see the oscar that fought Vargas. SO u saying afterall it as paulie." ...y don't u say afterall it was Oscar" ??? Please. knock it off. Manny is an exciting fighter. But he hasn't taken shots from a bigger fighter. Diaz was slow. look how many times manny had to hit him to put him down... Rick has fought the best in the world in floyd. Manny doesn't have half as many skills as floyd. Ricky will dominate manny & people are going to be surprised. If u remember the post fight interview w/ paulie..."his movement was so strange..it was too awkward for me to time...it was very confusing." Whut makes u think manny is gonna have an easier time.... come on bro say something that makes sense..

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                  #38
                  "Hatton isn't even as good as Gatti."- says Floyd Sr.

                  Last edited by VERDUGO; 01-05-2009, 03:16 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by mistermartin View Post
                    DLH's face looked like **** after the forbes fight. It looked worse than the Pac fight. SO wut does that prove. DLH came in weighing less than PAc. WTF. When was the LAst time DLH won a big fight. He's a part time fighter. Everybody thought we were gonna see the oscar that fought Vargas. SO u saying afterall it as paulie." ...y don't u say afterall it was Oscar" ??? Please. knock it off. Manny is an exciting fighter. But he hasn't taken shots from a bigger fighter. Diaz was slow. look how many times manny had to hit him to put him down... Rick has fought the best in the world in floyd. Manny doesn't have half as many skills as floyd. Ricky will dominate manny & people are going to be surprised. If u remember the post fight interview w/ paulie..."his movement was so strange..it was too awkward for me to time...it was very confusing." Whut makes u think manny is gonna have an easier time.... come on bro say something that makes sense..
                    All say something that make sense. Hatton was getting hit with straight rights by Floyd. Hatton will see straight lefts all night long with Pac. Forget the size we all no that doesnt matter in Pacs case. The speed will be to much for Hatton. Hatton vs. Paulie was a great way for Hatton to try new things but Hatton vs. Pac is a whole other ball game. I dont know about Hatton fighting the best in the world, maybe the best in the UK.

                    David Diaz "Hes just to damn fast"

                    Nacho Berstein "Oscar he's to fast for you"

                    After May 2
                    Floyd Sr. "Damn I didnt think he was that fast Ricky"
                    Last edited by trainhard_187; 01-05-2009, 03:36 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
                      All say something that make sense. Hatton was getting hit with straight rights by Floyd. Hatton will see straight lefts all night long with Pac. Forget the size we all no that doesnt matter in Pacs case. The speed will be to much for Hatton. Hatton vs. Paulie was a great way for Hatton to try new things but Hatton vs. Pac is a whole other ball game. I dont know about Hatton fighting the best in the world, maybe the best in the UK.

                      David Diaz "Hes just to damn fast"

                      Nacho Berstein "Oscar he's to fast for you"

                      After May 2
                      Floyd Sr. "Damn I didnt think he was that fast Ricky"
                      Are u reading my posts or just tpying b/c u get some name recognition out of this process. I said Manny will most likely score well w/ his straigght left. I also said that floyd hit Ricky ALl night. & it was cute for u to add quotes that make no point right along w/ anything else u've been saying. How bout u analyze how manny is gonna deal w/ having to punch moving backwards. How bout u analyze how manny is gonna deal w/ a consistent body attack. How bout u say something to tell me how manny is going to deal w/ someone wrstling & pushing & punching him. Tell me how manny plans to fight on the inside. How bout u mention something about how manny adjusts to riccky's movement. Manny won't be in their w/ someone too slow to catch him & he won't be in w/ someone who can't punch back. Ricky has been in the ring w/ the absolute best in the world. Manny can't say that. He's faced top fighter. But never the #1 fighter. HOw bout u give some analysis on those aspect of the fight rather than nuthuggin him based on the DLH win (which I admire & respect) but really analyze the strengths & weaknesses of both fighter & how they matchup against one another. Manny is more well rounded but Not nearly as complete as floyd. Wut stunned ricky wasn't the hooks & straight rights. He was completely shocked by floyd's strength & ability to fight in the pocket. Floyd neutralized his attack w/ that brilliant defense & punished ricky to the body & head As well as frustrate him by not allowing rick to get off inside. Manny doesn't possess that kind of ability. He wins off of offense & his explosiveness. Wut happens when a guy can slip his punches & then hop all over his ass like a fly to ****.... Adress any or all of those aspects of the fight..

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