is Calzaghe a better fighter than B Hop or not

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Hopkins is 43

Read the post you ****ing **** eater

[Tuggers1986]

is Calzaghe a better fighter than B Hop or not ?Joe holds a very contentious win over a 43 year old Hopkins but who on the whole is the better fighter taking in totality of thier careers etc

i got Hopkins

Hopkins by a mile!! Hopkins is still a better fighter now. If Joe didn't throw 200 punches a round (150 miss) then he would have no chance. I even think B-Hop would win a rematch, especially after the renewed confidence from the Pavlik fight.

[DiegoFuego]

is this a joke? Calzaghe at his best barely beat Hopkins at 43. it's not even debatable. Calzaghe is a horrible fighter when compared to B-Hop

[realheavyhands]

Bhop...bernard Was Never Even Hurt Vs Calzaghe..but Calzaghe Is A Machine

[Dan...]

is this a joke? Calzaghe at his best barely beat Hopkins at 43. it's not even debatable. Calzaghe is a horrible fighter when compared to B-Hop

You just have to compare the resumes. I don't wanna load up on the hate but you are basically comparing kessler and lacy (who, at this point, are not even great wins) and a 43 year old BHop with what? Trinidad, de la Hoya, Tarver, Pavlik, Wright as well as close losses to Roy Jones, Taylor and Calzaghe and a host of other fights against tough guys like Johnson and Echols.

I remember reading a thread on here a while back which compared the resumes of Calzaghe and BHop and concluded that they were about even. It was actually gaining momentum with reasonable posters agreeing with it. I was pretty disgusted.

[bsrizpac]

Well, Joe beat Hop by controversial decision at the same time that Hop was beating Pavlik and Tarver by wide decision. That tells you something.

And the bolded is just laughable... come on, did they REALLY have a chance?

Tito was heavily favored going into that fight. Much like Lacy.

[WESS]

You just have to compare the resumes. I don't wanna load up on the hate but you are basically comparing kessler and lacy (who, at this point, are not even great wins) and a 43 year old BHop with what? Trinidad, de la Hoya, Tarver, Pavlik, Wright as well as close losses to Roy Jones, Taylor and Calzaghe and a host of other fights against tough guys like Johnson and Echols.

I remember reading a thread on here a while back which compared the resumes of Calzaghe and BHop and concluded that they were about even. It was actually gaining momentum with reasonable posters agreeing with it. I was pretty disgusted.

Agreed.....

It's human nature to be gullible, you cant hold it against them.

[Dan...]

Agreed.....

It's human nature to be gullible, you cant hold it against them.

Nah man this was sick, it was posters whose opinions I really respect and are usually right on the money. It blew my mind a little.

[WESS]

Nah man this was sick, it was posters whose opinions I really respect and are usually right on the money. It blew my mind a little.

Well a heart can do crazy things to the brain. For even I am at fault for this.

The truth never lies, for this is where the heart plays the mind in a good game of chess......

Sometimes it takes time to realize this.....

[realheavyhands]

well...he Won, So Technically Speaking, You Pretty Much Have To Consider Him The "better" Fighter, At Least On That Night. There Are Alot Of Things Hopkins Is Good At, But Beating Calzaghe Wasn't One Of Them. It Was Fairly Obvious That Hopkins Knew If He Engaged Calzaghe He Wouldn't Win, Which Is Why He Chose The Method He Did, And It Was Probably His Best Chance At Beating Someone With Joe's Work Rate And Handspeed...it Just Didn't Work As Well As He'd Hoped. If Hopkins Had Hopened Up More So He Could Land More Shots, He'd Have Caught More As Well, And I Think It Would've Been A Wider Decision Without Any Question.

Yeah, I Know, Hopkins Gave Pavlik A Boxing Lesson, But On Top Of Being So Stylistically Different, Calzaghe Would've Done About The Same Thing To Pavlik That Hopkins Did...has Already, In Fact...and Yeah, I Also Know That None Of The Zaggs Haters Here Like To Hear The Name "kessler", But Kessler Is A Much More Complete Technical Boxer Than Pavlik, And Was Handled By Calzaghe In About The Same Manner, Though I Have To Say That I Did Actually Give Kessler A Couple Of Rounds, But Again...he's More Complete, Technically, Than Pavlik, So That's Not So Surprising. If You Guys Want To See How Much Better Kessler Is Than Pavlik, Petition For A Kessler/hopkins Matchup In January.

I Think That If Hopkins Were Able To Keep Up With Calzaghe's Work Rate, It'd Be A Great Fight, And I Just Don't Know How It'd Go, Honestly. It Wouldn't Be A Blowout Either Way, I Don't Believe, But I'm Also Not Convinced It Would Go Either Way For Certain. I Could Flip A Coin And Take A Guess, But Why Bother.

Hopkins Is A Legend And Pavlik Is A Great... Roy Is Inbetween And Toney Is A Great