Roy Jones Jnr v Bernard Hopkins NOW!

[Truth]

Roy won the first Tarver fight. And I think he should have gotten more credit for the heart he showed...

all people said was, if Roy had adversity how would he react?? Well he showed you by pulling out that fight. Lampley was saying it and even Mercahnt said roy is reacting like a champion. but after the fight Tarver started saying he won, and then he turned the attention on himself.

[Truth]

Haha, what else is there to focus on?

but i'm saying people just think...

39
tarver ko
johnson ko
old
knocked out
old 39
tarver
johnson

and they just ignore reality, if you watched the Tarver III fight, the hanshaw fight, the ajamu fight and the trinidad fight....you can see that Roy Jones isn't completely shot. in the third fight with tarver it was obvious that he made a mental decision to not win that fight. when he let his hands go he was effective. Emanuel steward, has said on many occasions that hes impressed on how good roy still performs even now.

and i've watched all jones's fights, i'll say first hand that he still in flashes shows some of his past brilliance. of course hes not fighting the best comp, but he needed some build up fight before fighting joe.

[Pugilistic?/a>]

Hopkins by Decision.

[neils7147933]

but i'm saying people just think...

39
tarver ko
johnson ko
old
knocked out
old 39
tarver
johnson

and they just ignore reality, if you watched the Tarver III fight, the hanshaw fight, the ajamu fight and the trinidad fight....you can see that Roy Jones isn't completely shot. in the third fight with tarver it was obvious that he made a mental decision to not win that fight. when he let his hands go he was effective. Emanuel steward, has said on many occasions that hes impressed on how good roy still performs even now.

and i've watched all jones's fights, i'll say first hand that he still in flashes shows some of his past brilliance. of course hes not fighting the best comp, but he needed some build up fight before fighting joe.

Ajamu and Hanshaw are barely Top 50 fighters at that weight and Trinidad had no business fighting at that weight. Jones can look great in what amounts to sparring sessions; Hopkins has been fighting p4p opponents...

[hunter1]

jones All Day. It Will Be As Ugly And Annoying As Hearing Joe Calzaghe Say "at The End Of The Day" One More ****ing Time. Roy Will Out Work Grandpa Hop, Simple As That.

Do You Really Hate Roy That Much? Lol You Are A Silly Character That Knows Less About Roy Jones Jr Than The Average Person That Knows Nothing Of Boxing That Lives In Pensacola Florida.

Sad.............

You Should Just Stick To Talking About Your Boy Joey....

Roy Jones Bumlicker

[warp1432]

Hopkins because even though Hopkins fought a messier fight last time out then Roy quality of opposition goes hand in hand.

Bernard used Ring movement really well and had well placed counters. He threw inside the clinch too. You could argue about stamina not being there, but honestly is Roy going to make him throw that many punches so he runs out of gas? Last time I checked Roy's stamina isn't all that hot either. He threw everything, but the kitchen sink against Hanshaw, but couldn't finish him off because he ran out of gas.

Sure there's the trinidad fight and how "Roy looked better defensively" But honestly don't you think a fighter who is 3 years inactive going to have timing issues in finding Roy? Hopkins' counters are very well timed even if they come one at a time now.

Oh and one other thing. Roy Jones sucks on the ropes. People like to say he looked great against Trinidad and Hanshaw doing it. If Hanshaw and Trinidad didn't have such ****ty defense they would have won a couple more rounds against him (Hanshaw won like 3 and Trinidad won like 2). Bernard's clinching makes people unconfortable and if Roy is on the ropes and Hopkins is smothering him to the point that Roy can't get off then Roy will lose. Roy's best shot countering of Hopkins counters with flurries. His handspeed is the only good thing that he has left.

Oh and if Roy pulls the "stay on the ropes" **** against Calzaghe, he's ****ed. Calzaghe has way better handspeed then trinidad/hanshaw and stamina to let himself get punched out. Not to mention if Roy does have effectiveness on the ropes, Calzaghe is one of the best adjusters in the game today.

[Truth]

Ajamu and Hanshaw are barely Top 50 fighters at that weight and Trinidad had no business fighting at that weight. Jones can look great in what amounts to sparring sessions; Hopkins has been fighting p4p opponents...

ands he suppose to fight great fighters after three straight loses, two by knock out at 36 years old. He needed some easier fights to get him ready for the culmination of his attempt at a comeback. Say what you will about Hanshaw but he was a decent fighter and he was 9 years younger.

[neils7147933]

ands he suppose to fight great fighters after three straight loses, two by knock out at 36 years old. He needed some easier fights to get him ready for the culmination of his attempt at a comeback. Say what you will about Hanshaw but he was a decent fighter and he was 9 years younger.

But Hanshaw got destroyed by a real prospect once he stepped up...

I'm just saying Hopkins has more left than Jones does, even though neither are particularly fun to watch anymore...

If you can hit Roy, you can KO him, and if Calzaghe lands clean, then a side-by-side comparison with the decision win over Hopkins might make it more apparent...

[Truth]

But Hanshaw got destroyed by a real prospect once he stepped up...

I'm just saying Hopkins has more left than Jones does, even though neither are particularly fun to watch anymore...

If you can hit Roy, you can KO him, and if Calzaghe lands clean, then a side-by-side comparison with the decision win over Hopkins might make it more apparent...

i give credit to roy for fighting on, but it all depends how you look at it.

you might be right. we'll have to wait until November 8th, should be fun.

[Kris Silver]

I have to say after so many view points being expressed about Roy being way past it and finished I'm slightly surprised to see so many people to favour him beating Hopkins now.

Firstly I don't think Roy is anywhere near as past it as is commonly made out. He still has immense speed (more than Calzaghe) a supreme boxing brain, is fit and somewhat adaptable.

However, being past prime suites Hopkins style way more than Roy, even given how Roys adapted to suite. Hopkins unique minimum work rate, defensive, tactical counter punching style suites an older fighter immensely. Let alone the fact he's not long coming off wins over Tarver and and close loss to the p4p #3. I also think Roys recent wins are underated, but their not as impressive as what Hopkins has shown.

Hopkins style is a nitemare for someone of Calzaghes style. And lets be realistic, Roys style isn't a million miles away from Joes. Roy would rely on his speed, and tactical ability, and whilst their both probably slightly better than Joes, not enough to win him the fight imo. This is bearing in mind Joe had a poor performance. Hopkins would spoil Roy, with Roy not able to keep the work rate to win on default, like to some extent Calzaghe did, certainly on some rounds. A Hopkins UD has to be favourite.