bernard hopkins vs joe calzaghe prime vs prime

[IMDAZED]

Yeha he thought "why take the risk when I can fight Carl Daniels and Morrade Hakkar"?

I never said he wasnt smart.

Yeah because Miguel Angel Jimenez and Tucker Pudwill were incredible risks.

"I had to fight them cuz no one would move to my division when I was a nobody and fight me!"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

who the hell was joe calzaghe in 2002? no one paid any attention until 2006.

Who the hell was Morrade Hakkar in 2002?

Who the hell is he full stop????

[Dynamite Kid]

it does not really matter who ducked who cause that still does not mean Hopkins would not have beaten Joe in his prime

also it does not mean Pavlik would beat Calzaghe cause he is ducking him

[ИATAS]

Who the hell was Morrade Hakkar in 2002?

A mandatory challenger.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah because Miguel Angel Jimenez and Tucker Pudwill were incredible risks.

"I had to fight them cuz no one would move to my division when I was a nobody and fight me!"

This makes no sense. Calzaghe agrees to fight Hopkins yet its his fault that Hopkins backed out??

[WESS]

You make some goods points but i have to disagree here. Hopkins was hurt in the Mercado fight and there was no question about that, however he was no where near about to be stopped. He actually showed good composure when he was hurt especially for an inexperienced fighter that he was at the time. He got back up, fought on the outside and tied up when he had to. He is much more smarter now and doesn't get hit nearly as often as that.

I agree. I think he was just making a point to me, because I worded something wrong and made it sound as If B HOP was never hurt or ever hit the canvas or something along those lines. I agree though I have never seen HOP really truly HURT or dazed. Never. I don't think I ever will, even against PAVLIK... I think PAV will win but pull a win over him just like Joe did.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

A mandatory challenger.

Oh........sorry! Didnt realise I was stepping on such important toes.

[IMDAZED]

This makes no sense. Calzaghe agrees to fight Hopkins yet its his fault that Hopkins backed out??

What makes no sense about it? What paperwork did Calzaghe sign? All we know is that Hops fought Hakkar and Daniels and Calzaghe fought Jimenez and (chuckle) Pudwill. Those are the only facts I see here.

But since you know so much about the negotiations why don't you tell us what happened with the proposed Glen Johnson-Joe Calzaghe bout?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What makes no sense about it? What paperwork did Calzaghe sign? All we know is that Hops fought Hakkar and Daniels and Calzaghe fought Jimenez and (chuckle) Pudwill. Those are the only facts I see here.

But since you know so much about the negotiations why don't you tell us what happened with the proposed Glen Johnson-Joe Calzaghe bout?

They both agreed to the fight. There was an article in Ring ****zine about it with someone who witnessed the entire meeting. I dont see how anyone can deny it happening, its about as concrete as you can get.

Calzaghe had a ****ty division and fought those chumps sure. But he was willing to fight the best. Hopkins wasnt. Simple really.

As far as I know Calzaghe and Johnson were scheduled to fight before Joe had more hand troubles which have plagued his career.

[hunter1]

calzaghe was faster and more powerful back in the day. so yeah yeah cal would of won a UD or SD with hopkins even years ago.

get hopkins some welterweights and he will be doing hes thanngggg