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    Calzaghe/Hopkins/Jones Jr. - three overrated hacks who rarely fought anyone of note

    It's funny, what with NSB being 70% American, how people try and make out that Roy and Hopkins had semi decent ledgers.

    All three of these guys will go down as "legendary" fighters after fighting......... what???

    I give Roy credit for Toney and possibly two or three others. It still cracks me up how people talk about how this guy is an all-time P4P great. Mainly noob fans. How can you justify that if he hasn't showcased his roidy skills against anyone of note? I mean, I look like Muhammad Ali when I'm shadowboxing in the shower, you know what I mean?

    Most of these guys spent their whole career fighting mediocre competition. Joe's comp is nowhere near as bad as the average dunderhead on here likes to make out (what most idiots don't realise is that a lot of the guys he fought were actually world champions at one point and that he fought more Americans than any other nation in championship bouts) but still not great. Hopkins's was dire, boosted by two wins over much smaller guys which is meaningless.

    In terms of natural talent then I'd say Roy... when he'd taken his roids.

    It's kind of funny when you see people taking on the best competition out there and getting overlooked and then you get these three chumps becoming "legends" because Ring ****zine decrees it (and make no mistake, because Roy and Bernard are "legends" then Joe will become one too when he beats them both, despite the fact that they're both 86).

    I like Joe, but he ain't no Danny Williams, you know what I mean?

    #2
    I remember there was a thread on the BBC forum where people listed their all-time top ten greatest fighters.

    Some poster who had listed Roy Jones at #1 said to another poster "why the **** have you got Muhammad Ali in yours for?"

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      #3
      In case you havn't noticed you can analyze and bash almost anyone's resume... Enough of being a boxrec idiot... I expected more from you.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Evil_Meat View Post
        In case you havn't noticed you can analyze and bash almost anyone's resume... Enough of being a boxrec idiot... I expected more from you.
        I expected more of you than just some knee jerk bull****tery about boxrec.

        I've WATCHED fights, boy.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Duke McKenzie_ View Post
          I expected more of you than just some knee jerk bull****tery about boxrec.

          I've WATCHED fights, boy.
          I'm not saying you havn't watched fights... The fact is that you made this thread after just looking at boxrec.

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            #6
            You know we are beating the same drum Duke.
            But these heathens can't figure out the rythm.
            No matter how you break it down to these dumb ****s.
            They will always be dumb sheep.
            If they ever turned commentary off a fight for starters they might just get their own point of view.
            Some just aren't ever ready to be enlightened.

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              #7
              Ya'll Must Have Forgot

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                #8
                if you just looked at resumes... MOST good fighters could be seen as overated.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Evil_Meat View Post
                  I'm not saying you havn't watched fights... The fact is that you made this thread after just looking at boxrec.
                  I don't think he needed boxrec to tell him anything he posted. It's hardly rocket science.

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                    #10
                    i somewhat agree with the all three are a bit overrated part and that none of their records are that particularly great... but i do think they should be classed as legends (Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr moreso than Calzaghe, but still)

                    Roy Jones Jr at his peak was one of the most talented fighters i've ever seen in terms of pure boxing skills, Bernard Hopkins is one of the most ring smart, defensively gifted boxers and Calzaghe is one of the best British fighters ever and if he retires undefeated that's an accomplishment that almost no other top boxer has ever achieved

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