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    #91
    I think Enzo figured that the fight against Lockett proved to be too much for Joe to handle if they were to fight.

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      #92
      GOD DAMN IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!!!

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        #93
        Originally posted by Sir_Joe View Post
        A 50% Roy Jones presents more a challenge than Kelly Pavlik. Jones has handspeed advantage over Calzaghe and even EXPERIENCE and Power.. All Kelly has is power advantage.
        I tend to agree with this statement. Pavlik is the man now @ 160, but a Roy Jones he is not.

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          #94
          Calzaghe cant hold Pavliks Jock Strap

          Non-sense. Kelly Pavlik is the clearly the best middleweight. He completely destroyed a feared Edison Miranda and DETHRONED Jermain Taylor damn near decapitating him and has probably ended his career. Calzaghe has struggled against decent competition in Kessler, Hopkins and Mitchell he cant hold Pavliks jock strap.

          Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
          You fella's don't seem to look at anything deeper than your subjective opinion, and then rant all day as it's it fact.

          A decent amount of people in and outside boxing, and most on here, give Pavlik and Jones reasonably similar chances against beating Calzaghe. Reasons being fella's, styles makes fights. An absolutley massive factor in determining a winner (Hops fight demonstrated it recently) yet you don't mention it, let alone factor it into your rants of Calzaghe not wanting Pavlik cos he'd lose, and fighting an old Roy cos he'd win.

          Pavlik's come forwards, straight punches style is suited to Calzaghe, this showed in beating Kessler. He can move around, duck, roll his head, time coming in/going out, and punch at different angles, with better speed. He wouldn't get him much, if he did he's handled big shots from Mitchell and similarly powered Kessler on his iron chin, and would enable himself to hit Pavlik at will.

          This is why Calzaghe is confident he can beat Pavlik, he's never ducked anyone and is choosing of the fights open to him, and has not chosen the easier one. He says this openly guys, and many agree, so quit making stuff up to suite your view. Pavlik would have a better chance against Calzaghe next year when he'd be a better skilled boxer, and have more intelligence to his game, Calzaghe with his words clearly recognises this and is willing to risk fighting a younger Roy now, then an older closer to prime Kelly next year, possibly, and that's impressive.

          Roy has the attributes and style that could challenge Calzaghe on all of his strength area's like to an extent no other fighter has before. His speed is
          still good, and not dissimilar to Joes, whom is regarded extremely fast, who else can say this? Pavlik, no. His movement is good, he can punch quickly at various angles like Joe can, so it is in no way as easy a fight for Joe to roll with and win, as it would be with Pavlik. There's a clear proven game plan for Joe to beat someone like Pavlik again and adapt in some area's, with Roy that's not so much the case, he can challenge Joe on most if not all of the same fronts, be competitive, and brings super ring intelligence, style a solid all round boxing game to the fight.

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            #95
            The Senior Tour:

            43 Hopkins
            40 Jones
            40 Glen Johnson (calzaghe's last fight).

            GOAT!!!!!!!!

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              #96
              Originally posted by ronrar View Post
              where do we think this is gonna happen, in wales or us?
              Hopefully Wales. I wanna go but wouldnt fancy paying out thousands to go Vegas

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                #97
                Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post
                Both Jones and Pavlik are trash now but it's the lesser of two evils and if I was guiding Joe, I'd go with Pavlik just for the simple fact that he's undefeated and has momentum.

                Jones has been exposed after years of relying on reflexes instead of learning how to properly BOX!!!

                Hey, all ****ing Pavlik knows is 1-2 but at least he knows a 1-2.....Jones doesn't even have that.
                This **** you say is jokeworthy. Keep the trap shut in the interest of not making yourself seem even more ignorant.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
                  You fella's don't seem to look at anything deeper than your subjective opinion, and then rant all day as it's it fact.

                  A decent amount of people in and outside boxing, and most on here, give Pavlik and Jones reasonably similar chances against beating Calzaghe. Reasons being fella's, styles makes fights. An absolutley massive factor in determining a winner (Hops fight demonstrated it recently) yet you don't mention it, let alone factor it into your rants of Calzaghe not wanting Pavlik cos he'd lose, and fighting an old Roy cos he'd win.

                  Pavlik's come forwards, straight punches style is suited to Calzaghe, this showed in beating Kessler. He can move around, duck, roll his head, time coming in/going out, and punch at different angles, with better speed. He wouldn't get him much, if he did he's handled big shots from Mitchell and similarly powered Kessler on his iron chin, and would enable himself to hit Pavlik at will.

                  This is why Calzaghe is confident he can beat Pavlik, he's never ducked anyone and is choosing of the fights open to him, and has not chosen the easier one. He says this openly guys, and many agree, so quit making stuff up to suite your view. Pavlik would have a better chance against Calzaghe next year when he'd be a better skilled boxer, and have more intelligence to his game, Calzaghe with his words clearly recognises this and is willing to risk fighting a younger Roy now, then an older closer to prime Kelly next year, possibly, and that's impressive.

                  Roy has the attributes and style that could challenge Calzaghe on all of his strength area's like to an extent no other fighter has before. His speed is still good, and not dissimilar to Joes, whom is regarded extremely fast, who else can say this? Pavlik, no. His movement is good, he can punch quickly at various angles like Joe can, so it is in no way as easy a fight for Joe to roll with and win, as it would be with Pavlik. Joe's no spring chicken he's about 37, Roy will be 39, big deal. There's a clear proven game plan for Joe to beat someone like Pavlik again and adapt in some area's, with Roy that's not so much the case, he can challenge Joe on most if not all of the same fronts, be competitive, and brings super ring intelligence, style a solid all round boxing game to the fight.

                  I agree Cal would probably decision Pavlik. Probably 7 times out of 10. Pavlik would never back up like Kessler did. He would back Joe up. Joe does not want none period. Watch Jones and then he retires.

                  He wants pavlik to be more of a challenge. LMFAO.

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                    #99
                    it is very tough these days to be a true warrior in the sport of boxing. the fear these brave warriors put in the heart of many fighters makes it very hard to get fights against the best guys in the world. if calzaghe fights jones instead of pavlik i have to say this man is a coward because the ghost faced killer is a young hungry fighter who gives the fans excitement and knockouts. i think he fears pavlik and his devestating power.

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                      Originally posted by Queen_Leia View Post
                      Highly unlikely...If that circus act Pavlik fights Joe, it will be Calzaghe-Lacy v2 all over again..that 1-2 jab, right hand nonsense will not beat Joe...Oh "Pavlik has a high work rate"....****, so does Joe but I would rather watch this fight than that senior citizen Jones attempting to relive his glory years.

                      No one gains anything by fighting Jones now. I think that Jones should become a gate-keeper so that future prospect can get their resume looking nice & spiffy by adding his soon to be worthless name on to it.
                      nice av ***

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