The Friday Night Fights Thread

[JK1700]

Hopefully Shumenov won't be a ***** and duck Campillo.

He was absolutley schooled in the 2nd fight and got one of the worst decisions I have seen ever. I hope the WBA realises that Campillo deserves a rematch, Uzelkov deserved an immediate shot because he beat Campillo but Shumenov beating Uzelkov doesnt change the fact that Campillo should still be WBA champion. And will be again if there is a third fight, Hopefully the WBA will pick people who actually know how to score fights this time.

[-Hyperion-]

all the light heavy young-guns are such a threat to chad's china chin and pillow fists man.......


i mean, the beast shumenov took epi mendoza and the corpse of montell griffin 12 rounds

the shark diaconu is being ducked for old man pascal(its a conspiracy that pascal is younger than diaconu, the canadian government fasified those papers, pascal is actually 54 years old, and diaconu beat him twice but was robbed)

tavoris cloud didnt have a harder time with clinton woods than old man tarver.....and isnt fighting an even older glen johnson next



dawson is a coward

[Mikhnienko]

Come August 14th, Chad's last 5 fights would have come against top 5 opposition (Johnson x2, Tarver x2, Pascal).

When he went after a title, he took on the strongest titleholder (Adamek) and took him to school.

How many times did Diaconu pull out of a fight against Dawson? Mendoza even had to step in as a replacement for Diaconu. After Dawson got tired of waiting for the clown, he vacated to took on the much more dangerous Glen Johnson.
How long has he been calling out Calzaghe and Hopkins? I thought so...

That is some distorted retelling of events if iv ever heard any.

Here is an article with an acurate synopsis of that whole time period


[I]On the 9th of May 2007, Adrian Diaconu earned his place as mandatory challenger to Chad Dawson's WBC title with an emphatic three round brutal demolition of Rico Hoye. Chad Dawson, however, had other plans. He was chasing a fight with Antonio Tarver instead. Tarver, who had looked faded, unmotivated and lacking in focus against Bernard Hopkins the previous year, seemed easy prey to Dawson and a good trophy win on his resume to help augment his profile and help him enter the big-league of American boxing. Tarver however, didn't give in to Dawson's advances. He was on a carefully managed comeback trail. Whilst trying to draw Tarver in, Dawson voluntarily defended his WBC title against aged journeyman Jesus Ruiz. Under pressure to arrange a fight against mandatory challenger Adrian Diaconu and having failed to interest Tarver in a fight against him, Chad Dawson unwillingly relented. After seemingly endless negotiations, he agreed to face his mandatory Diaconu on the 29th of September in Sacramento, California. It was a much anticipated fight between the two best young contenders in an aged division. The clash of styles presented a mouth-watering prospect – the aggressive, explosive but fairly limited puncher against the smooth, fast, versatile but weak-chinned and tactically ill-disciplined boxer – both prime, live, unbeaten and hungry for success and acclaim, both with much to prove. Dawson had to prove his chin and mental strength; Diaconu – his class and skill. Ten days before the fight, disaster struck; Diaconu injured his hand in training – an MRI scan revealed bone contusions in his right hand and Diaconu was forced to pull out. At very short notice, aged, faded journeyman Epifanio Mendoza stepped in to give Dawson a stay busy fight and keep the card alive and the TV networks happy.
Diaconu came back from injury in October. He was reinstated as mandatory challenger by the WBC. Here, the story turns sour. Dawson argued that since Diaconu had pulled out, he shouldn't have to fight him. He argued that his fight against Mendoza should count as his mandatory defence of his title and that Diaconu's status as mandatory challenger should be revoked. The WBC, rightfully, insisted that since Diaconu has pulled out with a bona fide injury and was presently both very able and eager to challenge Dawson for the title, the Champion, Dawson, should make arrangements to fight his mandatory, Diaconu, as soon as possible, before fighting anyone else.
Incredibly, Dawson ignored the WBC's ruling. He refused to enter negotiations with Diaconu. This is the first time that Dawson ducked Diaconu. Not only had he tried to have Diaconu's mandatory status revoked for good, but he ignored a direct order from the WBC to fight Diaconu. Instead, Dawson was still chasing Tarver. Realising that Tarver remained uninterested in a fight against him at this stage, requiring more time to get back into shape and put his career back on track, Dawson started chasing a fight against 39-year old legend Glen Johnson instead. The "Road Warrior", Dawson thought, would be great risk/reward. A win over Johnson would make him well-known and open many doors for the ambitious Dawson.

Having ignored the WBC's ruling and ducked Diaconu, Dawson entered formal negotiations with Johnson in late 2007. In doing so, he ducked his mandatory challenger Diaconu a second time!

Surprisingly, the WBC didn't take Dawson's slight to heart, forgave him for his transgression, changed its mind in his favour and very generously permitted Dawson to fight Johnson first, as long as he agreed to fight Diaconu (if he remained Champion) by the 15th of March 2008. With this in mind, the WBC ordered Dawson to fight Johnson by the 15th of January 2008 at the latest. Dawson agreed.

[Mikhnienko]

However, for the second time, he broke his promise to the WBC and ignored their ruling. The 15th of January deadline passed, as did the 15th of March deadline, and not only had Dawson failed to fight Diaconu, but he had not even started negotiations with him, nor had he managed to fight Johnson, with whom he had signed a deal, yet. In doing so, Chad Dawson ducked Adrian Diaconu for the third time. The WBC had finally had enough. Dawson had failed to honour his contractual obligations to the sanctioning body and to his mandatory challenger three times now, and having been forgiven twice only for him to go back on his word, enough was enough. For having repeatedly ducked his mandatory challenger, he was to be stripped of his title. Chad Dawson's fight against Glen Johnson was to be a non-title fight. After all, Dawson wasn't the only boxer in the world that should be allowed to fight for a world title. Diaconu had done more than enough to earn his shot at the title and Dawson had no right not only not to fight him, as his mandatory, but also to stop him from competing for the title by hugging the belt indefinitely. Too much was too much.

The most demeaning, dishonourable part of the sordid affair was yet to pass, however. Having ducked Diaconu and having arranged to fight Johnson long after the deadline, threatened with being stripped of his title, Dawson, accompanied by his promoter, Gary Shaw, reportedly flew over to Mexico and camped out for two days in front of the WBC President's residence, begging to be allowed in to petition him. Thus, after they had waited for two days outside his house, the WBC President allowed them in, unwillingly. Dawson begged him to sanction his fight against Glen Johnson as a title fight, claiming poverty and arguing he would be unable to feed his family if he were stripped. Impressed by his sorry story of woe, the WBC President forgave him for the third time, sided with him again and finally agreed to sanction the fight against Johnson as a world title fight. Having been reprieved for a third time, unbelievably, Dawson lowered himself even further. Having ducked Diaconu three times and having stopped him from competing for a world title three times by hugging the belt, and having just been allowed to fight Johnson with the belt on the table, Dawson had the nerve to ask the WBC President to revoke Diaconu's mandatory status for good yet again, so that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would never have to face Diaconu ever again! In other words, he demanded that Diaconu never get a title shot for the WBC title! The WBC President, flabbergasted at the request, couldn't bring himself to swallow yet another injustice. He told Dawson that he would allow Diaconu to fight for the WBC Interim Championship and that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would have to fight the WBC Interim Champion within 120 days, or get stripped of his share of the title. Incredibly, the President even asked Dawson to sign a contract agreeing to respect this ruling of the WBC! How humiliating! And this after Dawson had brazenly ignored the WBC's rulings on three separate occasions! Dawson agreed, finally and signed the contract.

This is how it came to pass that Dawson fought Johnson with the belt on the table and how Diaconu got to fight Henry for the Interim Title.[/I]

[Dick Buffman]

That is some distorted retelling of events if iv ever heard any.

Here is an article with an acurate synopsis of that whole time period


[I]On the 9th of May 2007, Adrian Diaconu earned his place as mandatory challenger to Chad Dawson's WBC title with an emphatic three round brutal demolition of Rico Hoye. Chad Dawson, however, had other plans. He was chasing a fight with Antonio Tarver instead. Tarver, who had looked faded, unmotivated and lacking in focus against Bernard Hopkins the previous year, seemed easy prey to Dawson and a good trophy win on his resume to help augment his profile and help him enter the big-league of American boxing. Tarver however, didn't give in to Dawson's advances. He was on a carefully managed comeback trail. Whilst trying to draw Tarver in, Dawson voluntarily defended his WBC title against aged journeyman Jesus Ruiz. Under pressure to arrange a fight against mandatory challenger Adrian Diaconu and having failed to interest Tarver in a fight against him, Chad Dawson unwillingly relented. After seemingly endless negotiations, he agreed to face his mandatory Diaconu on the 29th of September in Sacramento, California. It was a much anticipated fight between the two best young contenders in an aged division. The clash of styles presented a mouth-watering prospect – the aggressive, explosive but fairly limited puncher against the smooth, fast, versatile but weak-chinned and tactically ill-disciplined boxer – both prime, live, unbeaten and hungry for success and acclaim, both with much to prove. Dawson had to prove his chin and mental strength; Diaconu – his class and skill. Ten days before the fight, disaster struck; Diaconu injured his hand in training – an MRI scan revealed bone contusions in his right hand and Diaconu was forced to pull out. At very short notice, aged, faded journeyman Epifanio Mendoza stepped in to give Dawson a stay busy fight and keep the card alive and the TV networks happy.
Diaconu came back from injury in October. He was reinstated as mandatory challenger by the WBC. Here, the story turns sour. Dawson argued that since Diaconu had pulled out, he shouldn't have to fight him. He argued that his fight against Mendoza should count as his mandatory defence of his title and that Diaconu's status as mandatory challenger should be revoked. The WBC, rightfully, insisted that since Diaconu has pulled out with a bona fide injury and was presently both very able and eager to challenge Dawson for the title, the Champion, Dawson, should make arrangements to fight his mandatory, Diaconu, as soon as possible, before fighting anyone else.
Incredibly, Dawson ignored the WBC's ruling. He refused to enter negotiations with Diaconu. This is the first time that Dawson ducked Diaconu. Not only had he tried to have Diaconu's mandatory status revoked for good, but he ignored a direct order from the WBC to fight Diaconu. Instead, Dawson was still chasing Tarver. Realising that Tarver remained uninterested in a fight against him at this stage, requiring more time to get back into shape and put his career back on track, Dawson started chasing a fight against 39-year old legend Glen Johnson instead. The "Road Warrior", Dawson thought, would be great risk/reward. A win over Johnson would make him well-known and open many doors for the ambitious Dawson.

Having ignored the WBC's ruling and ducked Diaconu, Dawson entered formal negotiations with Johnson in late 2007. In doing so, he ducked his mandatory challenger Diaconu a second time!

Surprisingly, the WBC didn't take Dawson's slight to heart, forgave him for his transgression, changed its mind in his favour and very generously permitted Dawson to fight Johnson first, as long as he agreed to fight Diaconu (if he remained Champion) by the 15th of March 2008. With this in mind, the WBC ordered Dawson to fight Johnson by the 15th of January 2008 at the latest. Dawson agreed.

I mean I'm frankly shocked at that post Queloque made. He's usually on top of it but that was just laughable.

I'd expect that from the mocosos who don't know **** about boxing, but not Queloque.

Good pwn.



Nutin pirsonal Que..

[Mikhnienko]

I mean I'm frankly shocked at that post Queloque made. He's usually on top of it but that was just laughable.
I'd expect that from the mocosos who don't know **** about boxing, but not Queloque.

Good pwn.



Nutin pirsonal Que..

yeah that took me back too. He completely reversed the reality. Dawson ducked him three times and and begged like a little ***** to keep his belt and still not have to fight him.

Q usually is a good poster.

[Heru]

Let me get this straight, you're gonna use the fact that he's been ducking young guys but calling out another 40 year old who's retired and a 45 year old who's a part time fighter as your example that Chad is "bad"???

Holy **** man.

Just take that quote out of your sig right now, cuz you obviously don't mean it if you think beating fossils means **** for this kid right now.

You take stock in him beating the same Tarver that a 44 year old Hopkins destroyed?

Thats some 1984 double think **** man. Take Dawson's **** out yer ear.

What does it matter how old they are when they've proven themselves to be better than top 20 year olds?

He was calling out the 36 year old Calzaghe as soon as he had beaten Hopkins. And he's been calling out Hopkins.

What was Hopkins before and after the Calzaghe fight? The Ring Champion, then #1 in front of Dawson...

What was Calzaghe after the Hopkins fight until he retired? The Ring Champion...

Where were Johnson and Tarver ranked when he fought them? Rotating at 3,4,5, behind Calzaghe, Hopkins, and Dawson himself.

Who is he fighting now? #3 Pascal... What is he fighting for? The Ring Championship because he already clearly beat the #2.

Exactly, so **** outta here with that hatin' ****.

[Mikhnienko]

What does it matter how old they are when they've proven themselves to be better than top 20 year olds?

He was calling out the 36 year old Calzaghe as soon as he had beaten Hopkins. And he's been calling out Hopkins.

What was Hopkins before and after the Calzaghe fight? The Ring Champion, then #1 in front of Dawson...

What was Calzaghe after the Hopkins fight until he retired? The Ring Champion...

Where were Johnson and Tarver ranked when he fought them? Rotating at 3,4,5, behind Calzaghe, Hopkins, and Dawson himself.

Who is he fighting now? #3 Pascal... What is he fighting for? The Ring Championship because he already clearly beat the #2.

Exactly, so **** outta here with that hatin' ****.

Glossing over the absurd Diaconu situation you tried to twist around are we?

I give Dawson credit for the Johnson win (not wins) but he gets no credit from me for the Tarver wins. I don't care what he was ranked he was fighting a washed up shell for name recognition. Those wins are as significant as Klychko's over Rahman, seriously.

[warp1432]

Glossing over the absurd Diaconu situation you tried to twist around are we?

I give Dawson credit for the Johnson win (not wins) but he gets no credit from me for the Tarver wins. I don't care what he was ranked he was fighting a washed up shell for name recognition. Those wins are as significant as Klychko's over Rahman, seriously.

You do realize that Tarver looked better against Woods then Cloud did right?

[Heru]

Couldn't you have gotten a more biased article?

Forget all that, all I need to see is look at Diaconu's timeline...

2009-04-04 David Whittom
2008-04-19 Chris Henry
2007-05-09 Rico Hoye

Almost a year in between both fights. Dawson fought 5 fights in between (3 against fighters ranked higher than Diaconu). Diaconu was scheduled to fight Silvio Branco how many times after the Henry fight?