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Originally posted by De√ious View Postu try and twist and turn everything to benefit your point of view.
I guess DLH vs. Forbes isn't a tune up..
would 2-3 mil tune in to watch Mayweather fight Gomez.. no!
Given the right promotion and a fight with Mayweather, Cotto v. FLoyd would do better numbers.
Anyway.. you know you are protecting cowardness when you have to bring money and viewership into an argument..
What difference does it make how much money Mayweather makes or how many people watch it... Is the PPV numbers paying you? No! Like you said.. doesn't Mayweather make you money by winning? that would be more money in your pocket right?
No you would rather have him fight Manny Pacquiao.. if that isn't hypocritical I dunno what is!
Real boxing fans don't care about the money or the viewership they just want to see a great fight. Anyway, I'm out for the night.. You managed to do what you do with every single one of your threads and that is..
ACCOMPLISH NOTHING!"I guess DLH vs. Forbes isn't a tune up.."
This fight is a Tune up because it is not for No CHAMPIONSHIP BELT..
"would 2-3 mil tune in to watch Mayweather fight Gomez.. no!"
I never Claim Mayweather had 2-3 Million Supporters
You did...
You claim Cotto had 2-3 millions Supporters
But I know Floyd vs. Gomez w/ Margarito vs. Cintron on the underCard
would be on P.P.V
"Anyway.. you know you are protecting cowardness when you have to bring money and viewership into an argument.."
How when the argument is over how big his fan base really is..?Last edited by Horus; 04-08-2008, 02:17 AM.
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Originally posted by De√ious View Postyawn.. they are not as popular as Gatti. Anyway, go to sleep guy.. get a job, a girlfriend or something, this obession has to stop!.. Starting to worry bout you.. lol
"they are not as popular as Gatti"
What P.P.V's numbers Gatti in Before or After the Mayweather Fight..??
Because EveryOne Knows since P.P.V Started..That P.P.V is the real indicator of A boxers Success and Appeal... Because you to have the REAL appeal to make people spend anywhere from $45-60 dollars to see you fight from across the NATION
And Gatti only proved to have that appeal Once in his whole Career...?
and that was against Mayweather
He didnt even Fight Oscar on P.P.V...??
If he was so Popular how come two of the most Popular fighters in the Sport
Oscar vs. Gatti wasnt on P.P.V..!!
Floyd Fought Baldomir on P.P.V..??
How Come Gatti didnt Fight Baldomir on P.P.V..??
and if you say Because Gatti Lost to Floyd before you fought Baldomir
while Gatti lost to De La Hoya Before he Fought Floyd and that was on P.P.V..??
If Gatti was the draw it shouldnt matter if he wins or lose because he is a Popular fighter right..??
Like I said before
"People came to see and bought the P.P.V to see Gatti fight Mayweather..."
Not Mayweather fight Gatti...
In that fight
"100% percent of the people came to see Floyd, but 80% came to see Floyd Lose.."
Truth of the matter is
Shane Mosley.. and Zab Judah both had high buyrate P.P.V's under their Belt when they Fought Cotto and after they fought Cotto There Numbers went Down
Gatti,Baldomir,Judah all did not have any P.P.V exposure to proved their Appeal ...
When they fought Floyd..!!
And Floyd still did Better..
If Floyd Fought Shane Mosley I bet you any kind of Money that it would do way more then 340,000 buys...Last edited by Horus; 04-08-2008, 02:26 AM.
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Originally posted by Horus View PostCotto P.P.V Numbers:
Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 P.P.V
This is after Judah just was involve in a P.P.V that did 370,000 Buys
Meaning that Judah was At least A Well Knowned Fighter...
Cotto vs. Mosely = 340,000 P.P.V
This is After Mosley did.
Shane Mosley vs, Oscar De La Hoya I 590,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs, Oscar De La Hoya II 950,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Meaning That Mosely had more P.P.V Exposure than Hatton,Judah, and Baldomir....
SHANE Mosely IS MAINSTREAM
But that Fight DIDNT EVEN DO BETTER THAN
Floyd vs. Gatti
or
Floyd vs, Judah
And both of those fights were those Fighters First P.P.V meaning not Mainstream....
So Cotto has had more mainstream opponents with P.P.V exposure than Floyd Did. So what is the Argument...?
If he got 2-3 million supporters whats up with the P.P.V numbers..??
Because both of his P.P.V fights were against Well Known P.P.V Fighters
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto
Was Shane's Worst P.P.VLast edited by Horus; 04-08-2008, 02:10 AM.
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If you were discussing Boxing to someone who doesn't follow the sport, and they wanted to know who the best in the World is.....no matter if you are a Floyd hater or not.....if you do not say Floyd, i am curious to who you would say it is.
The same goes for the P4P lists.....if Floyd doesn't top it, there is something seriously wrong.
BTW, i am no Floyd fanboy, just someone who recognises a great boxer when he sees one.
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FM and Cotto need to fight soon, Cotto has been fighting against welters where as Floyd hasn't been. Floyd needs to fight his number 1 contender in this division. I watch both fighters as I'm a BOXING fan and want to see the best fights, not excuses!!!
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This Horus guy is so full of ****. Mayweather claims he alone sold all of those PPV so why would he need Cotto's fanbase, he's the one pulling everybody in. So regardless of who he fought he will still sell 2 million that's according to Floyd himself.
What he does need is to fight the very best right now and that is certainly not DHL or Hatton. The best right now is Miguel Cotto and if Floyd wants to be the best he has to beat the best. He won't fight him now because he knows he will lose and he's hoping for Cotto to lose so he won't have to fight him.
The question is are you a true boxing fan or just a Floyd fangirl? A true boxing fan doesn't give a **** about numbers they just want to see the best fight the best, a fangirl just doesn't want to see his boy beat. The best right now are Cotto and Floyd the money is going to be there, the people want it so why in the hell wouldn't you want to see this happen?
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