FLoyD FaNs vs. CoTTo FaNs vs. FLoyD HaTers: LET'S CLEAR THE AIR !!!!!!

[Lazy Liberal]

Mayweather fought Baldo after having fought Gatti on PPV.
Gatti is and was well recognized.
Cotto is younger then what Mayweather was when he had his first PPV and hasn't had a major one yet like Mayweather had.
I guess that when people say that the entire country of the Philippines watches when Pacquiao fights it's stereotyping.

Reality of it is.. Cotto has more fans then Hatton had pre-Mayweather fight and they don't need to cross the ocean to see him fight.
with the right promotion this fight makes way more money then the the hatton one in the states and in puerto rico.
Cotto has had fights outside of new york in atlantic city and done well..
because he hasn't fought in vegas doesn't mean he wouldn't do numbers.. that's like saying because someone has never done something then never will.
your argument is weak and flawed, I'm sorry but posting in red doesn't make your argument strong at all..

Good point on the Cotto/Floyd PPv. I was just going to say that it took Floyd 9 yrs to be in PPv, and when he did he was not the attraction.

Gatti was mainstream . Joe Blow from Montana knew who Gatti was. Cotto is doing fine with the PPV's. His opponents were not mainstream like gatti or Oscar were which resluts in big numbers. Lewis vs Tyson was huge because of Tyson not lewis, it helps to fight a fighter that everyone knows in order to pull good numbers.

[Horus]

Mayweather fought Baldo after having fought Gatti on PPV.
Gatti is and was well recognized.
Cotto is younger then what Mayweather was when he had his first PPV and hasn't had a major one yet like Mayweather had.
I guess that when people say that the entire country of the Philippines watches when Pacquiao fights it's stereotyping.

Reality of it is.. Cotto has more fans then Hatton had pre-Mayweather fight and they don't need to cross the ocean to see him fight.
with the right promotion this fight makes way more money then the the hatton one in the states and in puerto rico.
Cotto has had fights outside of new york in atlantic city and done well..
because he hasn't fought in vegas doesn't mean he wouldn't do numbers.. that's like saying because someone has never done something then never will.
your argument is weak and flawed, I'm sorry but posting in red doesn't make your argument strong at all..

Before I REALLY dig into your Post answer this Questions:

1.What Group of People Love Boxing the Most..??

Latinos
Blacks
Whites
Asians
Other

2. In the United States Are you more likely in the present state of boxing to have More Fans If you are a good Latino fighter or a good black fighter..??



3. Which Fans are more likely to pay to see their fighter fight Hatton Fans or Cotto Fans...(Including traveling to see thier fighter fight..)



4. I guess that when people say that the entire country of the Philippines watches when Pacquiao fights it's stereotyping.

Yes it is SteroTyping

But my point is when people say 2-3 million people will Pay $49-60 to see Cotto fight just because he is PR IS CRAZY.. because they have never did it Before..

Like I said Before


if he got 2-3 million supporters

Why is his next not fight on P.P.V..??
and is free on HBO....

Floyd had a fight with Baldomir (nobody knew who baldomir was)
and NobodY was on the Undercard and that Was P.P.V fight and Floyd Fans bought it...

Cotto is fighting Gomez

(People know who he is at least from the contender viewership of about 5 million a week according to cotto fans)

and They got Margarito and Cintron on the undercard
2 top WW's Fighters

So why is this not on P.P.V if Cotto got 2-3 million supporters and Plus another Puerto Rican Champion on the UnderCard....


Why is this fight not on P.P.V if he got 2-3 million supporters...??

Your Argument is Based on Opinion
Mines are Supported with FACTS

[Horus]

Your Logic is Absent from basic intelligent thinking and not support by Facts...!!!



Floyd vs. No Name Fighter with no U.S exposure (T.V):

Floyd vs.Carlos Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million (2nd P.P.V)

"We're very pleased with Mayweather's PPV performance, especially given that Baldomir had little previous exposure in the US," HBO PPV's Mark Taffet said.

Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.

Now Let's Compare Floyd to Oscar

Boxing Number #1 P.P.V Attraction FIGHTING NO NAME FIGHTERS...WITH barely NO U.S Exposure

Because Floyd vs. Anybody else fighting No Name Fighters with very little U.S exposure he wins Hands down..!!

Examples:

Roy Jones generated 160,000-175,000 buys in his first few PPV bouts against Montell Griffin, Vinny Pazienza and Eric Harding.

This was when Jones was A p4p Elite...

So what that tell you about Floyd doing Better 3x times with Baldomir

than

Jones did with Montell Griffin, Vinny Pazienza and Eric Harding

or


each fight in the memorable Marco Antonio Barrera-Erik Morales trilogy produced 300,000-330,000 buys and $13-15 million.

or

Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 225,000 PPV buys

And I can Name Alot of Other Fighters and fights too that Flop with Marginal Names compare to Floyd with a no name and no exposure Baldomir..

But Let's Continue

Oscar vs. No Names with No U.S Exposure (T.V):

M.A. Gonzalez(1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
6 fights in the United States before the fight...

Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,

So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...

Now Lets See what Happens when Floyd Has A well-known name challenger in the other corner :

vs.

EveryBody Else

Remember Floyd draw is not base on popularity, he plays the bad guy role he is more Notorious than Popular....

The rest of these fighters are Popular....

Floyd vs. One A well-known name challenger who been on P.P.V before besides Oscar:

Floyd vs. Hatton 850,000 in the US alone = $47 million in PPV revenue


The highest tally ever for a PPV boxing match that did not feature a heavyweight fighter such as Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield, or a Latino fighter like Oscar De La Hoya.

facts:

This fight was the highest-grossing PPV fight ever that didn't feature a heavyweight or Oscar.

Floyd vs. Hatton Combined = 2.5 Million buys just to throw that in there...




Oscar vs. Big Names Not Name Mayweather:

Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million in PPV revenue
Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million in PPV revenue
Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million in PPV revenue
Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 875,000 buys = $43.8 million in PPV revenue




Pacquaio vs. Big Names

Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys
Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys
Pacquaio vs. Marquez 400,000 buys

Roy Jones vs. Big Names

Roy Jones Jr vs. Felix Trinidad 500,000 PPV = $25 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. John Ruiz 602,000 PPV = $26.5 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver II 382,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver III 402,000 PPV

Felix Trinidad vs. Big Names Besides Oscar:

Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones 500,000 PPV
Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright 510,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Bernard Hopkins 475,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga 420,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas 560,000 buys

Bernard Hopkins vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar

Bernard Hopkins vs. Felix Trinidad 475,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor II 410,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys

Shane Mosley vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys

THE REAL POINT...

Floyd fighting a Nobody is almost the equivalent to any fight the 3rd Biggest Name in Boxing (Pacquaio) is fighting in and that is with Big Names

Floyd fighting a Nobody is almost the equivalent to

Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys

and Floyd fighting a marginal Name Like Judah is bigger than all those fights..

And Judah is barely a marginal Name

So Floyd vs. Judah = 375,000 buys So you could say that was all Floyd with a Marginal name fighter is better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P,V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?



So Floyd did fight a nobody his name was Carlos Baldomir and that fight was almost the equivalent to any of the big fights in the past 10 years...and better than 1/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P.V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

Like I said Before Floyd fighting a A well-known name challenger Is better than anybody not name Oscar,Tyson, or Holyfield

Floyd Mayweather = 216.65 Million on 4.65 million Buys ( 5 Events)







Mark Taffet HBO:

Jones-Tarver I did 302,000 buys and Jones-Tarver II did 384,000 buys. Mayweather’s fights with Gatti (originally reported at 340,000 but now at 360,000 buys) and Judah (375,000 buys now, hopefully a bit higher when the dust settles in a few months) outperformed Jones-Tarver I and came within 8% of Jones-Tarver II --- an excellent relative performance by Mayweather’s first two PPV fights. While Tarver-Jones III was originally reported at 415,000 buys, the fight actually ended up generating around 440,000 buys, which was outstanding. And to expect Floyd’s first two PPV fights to outperform Tarver-Jones III --- the rubber match of a classic trilogy --- would be unfair. Also remember that Roy Jones generated 160,000-175,000 buys in his first few PPV bouts against Montell Griffin, Vinny Pazienza and Eric Harding, and didn’t really breakthrough on PPV until he fought John Ruiz for the heavyweight title (602,000) and then fought Tarver three times. So Mayweather’s first two PPV fights fare very well by these yardsticks.

Remember, Taylor-Hopkins II generated 410,000 buys after Hopkins-Taylor I generated 370,000 buys. At 370,000 buys, Hopkins-Taylor I compared very similarly to Mayweather’s first two PPV fights, and don’t forget that Hopkins had been in a 480,000-buy PPV fight with Trinidad in 2001 and a 1,000,000-buy event versus Oscar De La Hoya before the two fights with Jermain Taylor. With this as background, Mayweather’s first two PPV fights again stand up well in a relative comparison.

And Trinidad-Wright was a great success at 520,000 buys, but remember that 70,000 of those buys came from Tito’s homeland Puerto Rico where he is a “national” hero, so the 450,000 US buys are a better barometer when comparing to Mayweather’s bouts. Additionally, you must note that Trinidad had previously been in big PPV promotions against Hopkins (480,000 buys), Vargas (560,000 buys) and De La Hoya (1,400,000 buys) prior to the Winky Wright event. Again, when taking all this into account, Mayweather’s first two PPV events fare very well.


Gatti-Mayweather PPV Success
Before they met , neither Arturo Gatti nor Floyd Mayweather had ever headlined a pay-per-view event. Nevertheless, the bout did an impressive 340,000 buys, generating $15.3 million in PPV revenue. With those numbers, Gatti and Mayweather join Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad as non-heavyweights who have the star power to carry a pay-per-view event.

How can people Honestly Vote that PBF is not a draw....

[Lazy Liberal]

How can people Honestly Vote that PBF is not a draw....

You could have just said Mayweather has better than average PPV numbers.

[Horus]

Just a few quick questions Horus. I'm not trying to bait you into anything, just an honest question that I'm having trouble figuring out myself. Do you feel Mayweather's drawing power has increased over his last 2 PPV's or was he just part of some great marketing/promotion on HBO's part, I'm referring to 24/7. What kind of PPV numbers would you expect from a Mayweather/Margarito or Mayweather/Williams without 24/7? Do you think his PPV numbers would slide back down to his Judah or Baldomir level, slight increase, or huge increase?

Do you feel Mayweather's drawing power has increased over his last 2 PPV's ?

Without a doubt, In the last two P.P.V's Mayweather has finally Figure out what works for him....He understand's that he doesnt have the Charm Nor a effective Authentic Persona to be a popular fighter yet... It would seem fake if Mayweather try to start acting like "Shane Mosley" or "Oscar De La Hoya"
because those guys have a humble Charm about them...and Floyd doesnt... That's why he has taken the road of being the Ultimate Bad Guy.. and thus that have made Him Notorious...!!

What kind of PPV numbers would you expect from a Mayweather/Margarito or Mayweather/Williams without 24/7?

24/7 really re-Introduce Floyd to America and the world as the new Ali from the "Notorious" Standpoint.. It was a Brilliant marketing plan... And I think That Help boost Floyd's appeal..

I think if Floyd fought Margarito or Williams right now with no 24/7..
The P.P.V would do around 500,000 P.P.V buys at this point of Floyd Career..

Because remember Floyd vs. Judah didnt have a countdown Show or any Promotion on HBO besides reminders of the fight...

and that did 375,000 P.P.V and that was before Floyd had the oppurtunity to re-introduce himself to the world....

So now Floyd's Name alone is going to sell...Because Margarito and Williams arent big name's yet and they have No Drawing Power...but if Floyd Fought them people would buy the fight thinking floyd might lose to the bigger man..

BUT THAT MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE FLOYD SAID HE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE OTHER FIGHTERS BIG, AND EAT OFF HIS PLATE..

Look at Oscar vs.a fighter without a well known Name


Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million

This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,


So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...

and I think That Would happen to Floyd too...

Do you think his PPV numbers would slide back down to his Judah or Baldomir level, slight increase, or huge increase?

Floyd vs. Baldomir was a Huge Success when you put it into Perspective

Floyd vs. Judah was better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P.V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?

[Sin City]

Before I REALLY dig into your Post answer this Questions:

1.What Group of People Love Boxing the Most..??

Latinos
Blacks
Whites
Asians
Other

2. In the United States Are you more likely in the present state of boxing to have More Fans If you are a good Latino fighter or a good black fighter..??



3. Which Fans are more likely to pay to see their fighter fight Hatton Fans or Cotto Fans...(Including traveling to see thier fighter fight..)



4. I guess that when people say that the entire country of the Philippines watches when Pacquiao fights it's stereotyping.

Yes it is SteroTyping

But my point is when people say 2-3 million people will Pay $49-60 to see Cotto fight just because he is PR IS CRAZY.. because they have never did it Before..

Like I said Before


if he got 2-3 million supporters

Why is his next not fight on P.P.V..??
and is free on HBO....

Floyd had a fight with Baldomir (nobody knew who baldomir was)
and NobodY was on the Undercard and that Was P.P.V fight and Floyd Fans bought it...

Cotto is fighting Gomez

(People know who he is at least from the contender viewership of about 5 million a week according to cotto fans)

and They got Margarito and Cintron on the undercard
2 top WW's Fighters

So why is this not on P.P.V if Cotto got 2-3 million supporters and Plus another Puerto Rican Champion on the UnderCard....


Why is this fight not on P.P.V if he got 2-3 million supporters...??

Your Argument is Based on Opinion
Mines are Supported with FACTS

1)Latinos make up the majority of people who watch De La Hoya and he makes way more PPV sales then Mayweather.

2) it depends on the fighter.. btw this right here is stereo typing..

3) Cotto doesn't need his fans to travel to the United States because he has more fans in the U.S. then Hatton had pre-Mayweather fight.

His next fight is on HBO because it is a tune up for Maragarito and that will be on PPV.. regardless.. at this age Cotto is at now Mayweather hadn't even had a PPV and the only reason he did numbers against Baldomir is because America was exposed to him during the Gatti fight.. were it not Mayweather fighting Gatti that fight wouldn't of done anything.

YOUR argument is based on opinion.. there is no facts in what you are speaking.

Not only Puerto Ricans watch Cotto and like I said before.. Cotto has more fans in the states then Hatton did before the Mayweather fight.. Now what were hattons numbers again? exactley..

Your arguments are weak because you post not out of reason or rational but emotion. If you could take the emotion out of your judgment you would be much better at this but you don't.

I'm sorry but again I took apart your argument and it's weak.. didn't even stand up.


BTW.. With great fights come great crowds and great money.. America did not know Hatton before GBP promoted the **** out of him.. same goes for Mayweather.

[Sin City]

Good point on the Cotto/Floyd PPv. I was just going to say that it took Floyd 9 yrs to be in PPv, and when he did he was not the attraction.

Gatti was mainstream . Joe Blow from Montana knew who Gatti was. Cotto is doing fine with the PPV's. His opponents were not mainstream like gatti or Oscar were which resluts in big numbers. Lewis vs Tyson was huge because of Tyson not lewis, it helps to fight a fighter that everyone knows in order to pull good numbers.

Yup, nearly every opponent Cotto has faced hasn't been mainstream and he is still doing good! Haters will hate.. these people let their judgement be clowded by emotion.. I think it's hillarious really.

[Horus]

1)Latinos make up the majority of people who watch De La Hoya and he makes way more PPV sales then Mayweather.

2) it depends on the fighter.. btw this right here is stereo typing..

3) Cotto doesn't need his fans to travel to the United States because he has more fans in the U.S. then Hatton had pre-Mayweather fight.

His next fight is on HBO because it is a tune up for Maragarito and that will be on PPV.. regardless.. at this age Cotto is at now Mayweather hadn't even had a PPV and the only reason he did numbers against Baldomir is because America was exposed to him during the Gatti fight.. were it not Mayweather fighting Gatti that fight wouldn't of done anything.

First your are a KNOWN... Flip Flopper On these Boards..



My point is this If Cotto has 2-3 million People Supporting Him
It doesnt Matter if he is fighting a Tune up Fight or Not...

it should be on P.P.V..

and Plus This Fight is For Cotto's Belt, So in reality this is a Championship Fight. and Not A tune up because Cotto could lose his Belt..

A tune up is where you have nothing to lose but a win or a Loss

And in that Case

Floyd vs. Baldomir was a tune up fight

Fight FOR Floyd vs. Oscar

Although it was a championship fight TOO....

JUST TO POINT THAT..!!!



by your Standards Floyd vs. Baldomir Was a tune up Fight since it was a fight to set up FLOYD VS. OSCAR

and Floyd vs. Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million (2nd P.P.V)


Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.



AND REMEMBER NobodY was on the Undercard and that Was P.P.V fight and Floyd Fans bought it...

COTTO

Cotto is fighting Gomez

(People know who he is at least from the contender viewership of about 5 million a week according to cotto fans)

and They got Margarito and Cintron on the undercard
2 top WW's Fighters

So why is this not on P.P.V if Cotto got 2-3 million supporters and Plus another Puerto Rican Champion on the UnderCard....

THE POINT IS THIS

if Cotto Has a Huge Fan Base Like you saY this fight should be on P.P.V
because he has a fan base that is willing to see him fight anybody..



Just Like Floyd Fans DID with BALDOMIR

[Sin City]

First your are a KNOWN... Flip Flopper On these Boards..



My point is this If Cotto has 2-3 million People Supporting Him
It doesnt Matter if he is fighting a Tune up Fight or Not...

it should be on P.P.V..

and Plus This Fight is For Cotto's Belt, So in reality this is a Championship Fight. and Not A tune up because Cotto could lose his Belt..

A tune up is where you have nothing to lose but a win or a Loss

And in that Case

Floyd vs. Baldomir was a tune up fight

Fight FOR Floyd vs. Oscar

Although it was a championship fight TOO....

JUST TO POINT THAT..!!!



by your Standards Floyd vs. Baldomir Was a tune up Fight since it was a fight to set up FLOYD VS. OSCAR

and Floyd vs. Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million (2nd P.P.V)


Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.



AND REMEMBER NobodY was on the Undercard and that Was P.P.V fight and Floyd Fans bought it...

COTTO

Cotto is fighting Gomez

(People know who he is at least from the contender viewership of about 5 million a week according to cotto fans)

and They got Margarito and Cintron on the undercard
2 top WW's Fighters

So why is this not on P.P.V if Cotto got 2-3 million supporters and Plus another Puerto Rican Champion on the UnderCard....

THE POINT IS THIS

if Cotto Has a Huge Fan Base Like you saY this fight should be on P.P.V
because he has a fan base that is willing to see him fight anybody..



Just Like Floyd Fans DID with BALDOMIR

u try and twist and turn everything to benefit your point of view.

I guess DLH vs. Forbes isn't a tune up..

would 2-3 mil tune in to watch Mayweather fight Gomez.. no!
Given the right promotion and a fight with Mayweather, Cotto v. FLoyd would do better numbers.

Anyway, I know you are desperate when your bringing **** up that isn't even relevent to the thread but a flip flopper? I guess you have never had a change of opinion?

Anyway.. you know you are protecting cowardness when you have to bring money and viewership into an argument..
What difference does it make how much money Mayweather makes or how many people watch it... Is the PPV numbers paying you? No! Like you said.. doesn't Mayweather make you money by winning? that would be more money in your pocket right?
No you would rather have him fight Manny Pacquiao.. if that isn't hypocritical I dunno what is!

Real boxing fans don't care about the money or the viewership they just want to see a great fight. Anyway, I'm out for the night.. You managed to do what you do with every single one of your threads and that is..
ACCOMPLISH NOTHING!

[Horus]

Yup, nearly every opponent Cotto has faced hasn't been mainstream and he is still doing good! Haters will hate.. these people let their judgement be clowded by emotion.. I think it's hillarious really.

Cotto P.P.V Numbers:

Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 P.P.V

This is after Judah just was involve in a P.P.V that did 370,000 Buys
Meaning that Judah was At least A Well Knowned Fighter...


Cotto vs. Mosely = 340,000 P.P.V

This is After Mosely did.

Shane Mosley vs, Oscar De La Hoya I 590,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs, Oscar De La Hoya II 950,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys


Meaning That Mosely had more P.P.V Exposure than Hatton,Judah, and Baldomir....

SHANE Mosely IS MAINSTREAM

But that Fight DIDNT EVEN DO BETTER THAN


Floyd vs. Gatti
or
Floyd vs, Judah

And both of those fights were those Fighters First P.P.V meaning not Mainstream....





So Cotto has had more mainstream opponents with P.P.V exposure than Floyd Did. So what is the Argument...?

If he got 2-3 million supporters whats up with the P.P.V numbers..??
Because both of his P.P.V fights were against Well Known P.P.V Fighters