Golota v Douglas ,who wins are the best day

[Dynamite Kid]

Yes he did do it to a PRIME Tyson right(he was 5'11 btw)? I mean it's not like Tyson wasn't in his prime when Douglass beat him so that makes his performance that night even more significant, right? Just so you know what we're talking about here.

Good. Now, Wether he was punching Marciano or Valuev, there is no denying his ability to stop a guy in his tracks with accurate stiff jabs, and following up with right hands. Golota had a great jab himself, but he wasn't as fast as Douglass, and that reach advantage from the Burger Buster would come in handy here. Douglass would control the fight against Golota with his longer reach and overall greater offensive ability. Not only is it clear that he was better on the outside with that long jab, but he was great on the inside as well if his straight right didn't connect. Uppercuts. It's almost impossible to beat a guy like this, and I really don't see an imaginary Golota with no mental problems, overcome this. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. I think you just saw a clip of Douglass KO'ing Tyson and decided that that would be your knowledge on Buster Douglass.

Btw, nexst time you should make this in Fantasy fights section. Just a bit of advice.

talk up Douglas all u like he beat an overated fighter with no heart ,if u could push him back like Douglas & Holy did then that was half the battle thats what Holyfeild did & thats why Don Turner his trainer told everybody that the 2nd fight would be easier cause Tyson is ineffective when u tie him up on the inside & push him back & that is what Douglas & Holy did to Tyson

"Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. I think you just saw a clip of Douglass KO'ing Tyson and decided that that would be your knowledge on Buster Douglass."

"Btw, nexst time you should make this in Fantasy fights section. Just a bit of advice"

here u go Golota was even better on the back foot counter punching aswell BTW

[TheGreatA]

Could go either way really skill-wise (both were very good on their best day) but I'd favor Buster Douglas because he fought with a never-quit attitude against Tyson, Golota didn't quit in the Bowe fights but he threw low blows when Bowe was fighting back.
I assume he would be doing that to Buster as well.

Douglas probably takes it by DQ or gets a close decision go his way because of point deductions.
I don't think Golota would quit or lose by KO because he showed some heart against Bowe aside from throwing low blows, he did get up from a devastating knockdown and took some punches from Bowe.
Buster's uppercut wouldn't be a problem, Golota neutralized Bowe's uppercut very well.


Golota HL


Douglas vs Tucker


Douglas vs Tyson

[BKM-]

talk up Douglas all u like he beat an overated fighter with no heart ,if u could push him back like Douglas & Holy did then that was half the battle thats what Holyfeild did & thats why Don Turner his trainer told everybody that the 2nd fight would be easier cause Tyson is ineffective when u tie him up on the inside & push him back & that is what Douglas & Holy did to Tyson

Actually Holyfield and Lewis mainly pushed when Tyson wanted to work on the inside, Douglass did less and mostly used his uppercuts. Douglas primair used his boxing skill and ability to break him down and win(If you actually WATCHED the fight instead of just having a peak at highlights, you might have known this), something you keep ignoring. You didn't try to dispute the fact that Douglass' punches were accurate, snappy with speed and not to mention his will to follow up. You didn't dispute the fact that his footwork, heart and will together with his skill that night made him formidable. You didn't try to dispute the fact that Golota would be facing big obstacles in skill, and physically as well. You didn't because you don't know what you're talking about, you have never seen him fight, and you base everything on your little Tyson hating agenda. If this is all you got, please go and try to talk with someone equally unknowledgeable as you. If you're gonna try and pull the "Youza Tyson nuthugger noob" card on me you better try your luck elsewhere kid, because i'm not biased.

here u go Golota was even better on the back foot counter punching aswell BTW

Right, you're the one who's upset because nobody said what you wanted to hear, posting immature smileys and saying someone is hyping a fighter because you are in a losing argument etc. Here's what you need to do. Go watch more fights, learn about both of these fighters and post your threads in the Fantasy fights section next time, so you can slag off anyone who doesn't agree with you or doesn't say what you want to hear.

[Dynamite Kid]

Yes he did do it to a PRIME Tyson right(he was 5'11 btw)? I mean it's not like Tyson wasn't in his prime when Douglass beat him so that makes his performance that night even more significant, right? Just so you know what we're talking about here.

depends on which way u look at it ,Tyson was either massively overated & got beat by a bum or Douglas was a better fighter than he gets credit for & beat a beast of a fighter in his prime

the way i see it Mike was in his prime but he did'nt train properly & paid the price for it i dont think Douglas did anything special that Tyson had'nt seen before it was a case of circunstances as far as im concerned Tyson did'nt train properly & Douglas had a perfect reason to display his underated skills ,Mike did'nt look great against Bruno prior to the Douglas fight ,hard to gauge how he looked against Carl Williams for obvious reasons

Mike did'nt throw anything against Douglas he looked tired & sluggish from the opening bell IMO ,his punch output was very poor there was no head movement from him

as for Bowe v Golota ,Golota was another who was underated but Bowe in his prime would have whipped the floor with him ,listen to Bowe speach in the post fight interview u can see how phyiscally damaged Bowe was as a fighter by that time ,he looked awfull against Herbie Hide & was actually hurt in that fight & Floored in his fight with Holyfield all prior to the Golota fights

Bowe & Tyson were both heading for beatings it was just a case of right circumstances right time & Golota/Douglas fought them in the right circumctances at the right time not to say Golota & Douglas were good underated fighters though

[KingTito]

it's close, but i'd lean towards douglas

[BKM-]

depends on which way u look at it ,Tyson was either massively overated & got beat by a bum or Douglas was a better fighter than he gets credit for & beat a beast of a fighter in his prime

the way i see it Mike was in his prime but he did'nt train properly & paid the price for it i dont think Douglas did anything special that Tyson had'nt seen before it was a case of circunstances as far as im concerned Tyson did'nt train properly & Douglas had a perfect reason to display his underated skills ,Mike did'nt look great against Bruno prior to the Douglas fight ,hard to gauge how he looked against Carl Williams for obvious reasons

Mike did'nt throw anything against Douglas he looked tired & sluggish from the opening bell IMO ,his punch output was very poor there was no head movement from him

as for Bowe v Golota ,Golota was another who was underated but Bowe in his prime would have whipped the floor with him ,listen to Bowe speach in the post fight interview u can see how phyiscally damaged Bowe was as a fighter by that time ,he looked awfull against Herbie Hide & was actually hurt in that fight & Floored in his fight with Holyfield all prior to the Golota fights

Bowe & Tyson were both heading for beatings it was just a case of right circumstances right time & Golota/Douglas fought them in the right circumctances at the right time not to say Golota & Douglas were good underated fighters though

First you accuse me of hyping Tyson up and all the usual stuff people pull out when they see a guy with a Tyson avatar, and now YOU are acting like a typical Tyson fanboy with all of these excuses? Wow, how things can turn.
I think this goes deeper for you though, since you like Rid**** Bowe it's likely that you're hyping Golota up because he circumsized Bowe twice.

[Dynamite Kid]

Actually Holyfield and Lewis mainly pushed when Tyson wanted to work on the inside, Douglass did less and mostly used his uppercuts. Douglas primair used his boxing skill and ability to break him down and win(If you actually WATCHED the fight instead of just having a peak at highlights, you might have known this), something you keep ignoring. You didn't try to dispute the fact that Douglass' punches were accurate, snappy with speed and not to mention his will to follow up. You didn't dispute the fact that his footwork, heart and will together with his skill that night made him formidable. You didn't try to dispute the fact that Golota would be facing big obstacles in skill, and physically as well. You didn't because you don't know what you're talking about, you have never seen him fight, and you base everything on your little Tyson hating agenda. If this is all you got, please go and try to talk with someone equally unknowledgeable as you. If you're gonna try and pull the "Youza Tyson nuthugger noob" card on me you better try your luck elsewhere kid, because i'm not biased.



Right, you're the one who's upset because nobody said what you wanted to hear, posting immature smileys and saying someone is hyping a fighter because you are in a losing argument etc. Here's what you need to do. Go watch more fights, learn about both of these fighters and post your threads in the Fantasy fights section next time, so you can slag off anyone who doesn't agree with you or doesn't say what you want to hear.

i have the full broadcast on DVD mate LOL

what is saw was an underconditioned fighter who was standing infront of Douglas & not throwing & taking shots cause he was tired ,his movements even looked sluggish so i would 'nt say it was what Douglas was doing that was tireing him out ,its not like Douglas used much movement or made Mike work at a hard pace its a case of Tyson not being in shape & Douglas taking adavantage

u are not biased u become really sensitive when anyone mentions Mike Tyson lol

[Dynamite Kid]

First you accuse me of hyping Tyson up and all the usual stuff people pull out when they see a guy with a Tyson avatar, and now YOU are acting like a typical Tyson fanboy with all of these excuses? Wow, how things can turn.
I think this goes deeper for you though, since you like Rid**** Bowe it's likely that you're hyping Golota up because he circumsized Bowe twice.

its called being objective u should try it

do u think a fit Tyson would have beaten Douglas that night ? cause i have no doubt what so ever & the fact that i have stated so means im objective & not being a fan boy is clouding my judgment unlike yourself

did Bowe have a clear speech in your opinion post golota 2 , did he look awfull against Hide & Holy 3 ,just stating my opinion mate

[Dynamite Kid]

Im not making excuses for Bowe or Tyson im saying its no coincidence that neither of them had longevity & both of them basically screwed themselves up outside the ring rather than inside it ,im not making excuses for either of them but in sports in general it is widely aknowledged that thier are small differences between winning & losing

so IMO it is best to maximse your opurtunitys of winning by doing the right things regarding in your life style as well as your proffesion ,Bowe & Tyson fell victim to not applying this accetped philosophy


Hopkins & Holyfield are model proffesionals who had longevity for a reason dedication & application

[BKM-]

i have the full broadcast on DVD mate LOL

what is saw was an underconditioned fighter who was standing infront of Douglas & not throwing & taking shots cause he was tired ,his movements even looked sluggish so i would 'nt say it was what Douglas was doing that was tireing him out ,its not like Douglas used much movement or made Mike work at a hard pace its a case of Tyson not being in shape & Douglas taking adavantage

u are not biased u become really sensitive when anyone mentions Mike Tyson lol

If you have the full broadcast and seen the fight more than once, how can you not acknowledge Buster's performance that night? Even if you ignore Tyson's problems, did you not see his ability that night? Everybody could see his skills, I keep repeating myself about his strategy, his punches etc but all you can say is "Oh Tyson wasn't in shape". If I was a rookie in this you'd have me confused because you went from being a Tyson hater to a biased Tyson homer LOL. There is only 2 things that can explain your posts regarding Douglass' greatness, it's that you're either too close minded/unknowledgable to see this, or you haven't seen the fight period. I personally think it's deeper than that. You love Rid**** Bowe and hate Mike Tyson, so you discredit Douglass and glorify Golota to make Bowe look good. I know that's it, but you won't come clean.

its called being objective u should try it

do u think a fit Tyson would have beaten Douglas that night ? cause i have no doubt what so ever & the fact that i have stated so means im objective & not being a fan boy is clouding my judgment unlike yourself

did Bowe have a clear speech in your opinion post golota 2 , did he look awfull against Hide & Holy 3 ,just stating my opinion mate

Objective is not making any excuses for Tyson, not having a biased agenda behind every post I make, and purely looking at the facts that have been given to us with footage. I have elaborated on this match-up before already, you haven't and couldn't dispute my claims on Buster's advantages over Golota. Now you're just speaking on irrelevant things. Neither Bowe or his damn speech pattern that you saw on Legendary Nights on Youtube has anything to do with this, or the fact that Tyson may have been unprepared and not at his best against Douglass. Because if that's the reason why Buster looked so good against Tyson, then Bowe being washed up is the reason why Golota looked so good against Bowe, isn't it? Talk Boxing with me or don't bother.