RICKY HATTON: "I can't stop crying."

[starjammer]

TONY... IT IS IN YOUR SIG. THE PUNCH SLIDES BY THE RIGHT SIDE OF FLOYD'S FACE. FLOY'D HEAD NEVER MOVES. YOU SEE THEIR FEET TANGLE, AND FLOYD STUMBLES BACKWARDS.

What I find more interesting about that clip is the guy who seems to knock Bernard on the chin as he jumps with joy.

[squealpiggy]

Squealpiggy and other Hattonites will have you believe that hatton was confident he could beat Floyd, had the gameplan to beat Floyd, and was en route to beating Floyd before Cortez ruined Ricky's world in the 6th.

I didn't say that. I had Hatton ahead after the sixth and I was not the only one. Furthermore it wasn't even exclusively fans of Hatton that had him ahead at that juncture. Hatton may well have lost had the fight continued. In fact with the vegas scoring he was absolutely going on to lose.

Hatton was confident he would beat Floyd, he was confident he had the gameplan to do it and he gave it a good go for six rounds at which point he got frustrated and his lack of control really let him down.

The refereeing was a shame (unless you are suggesting that the refereeing had ZERO impact on this fight) because it prevented us from finding out if Hatton could continue to make it a fight, and if Floyd could really beat Hatton at his own game without Cortez splitting them up every time Hatton showed the upper hand.

If Floyd won as easily as you are suggesting then would he have really said that Ricky was among the toughest guys he fought? What did he say about Gatti after the fight? The same thing he said before, he's a C+ fighter. If Hatton was as crap as you're suggesting then Floyd must be a real ***** to find him a tough fight.

[Mozza]

I didn't say that. I had Hatton ahead after the sixth and I was not the only one. Furthermore it wasn't even exclusively fans of Hatton that had him ahead at that juncture. Hatton may well have lost had the fight continued. In fact with the vegas scoring he was absolutely going on to lose.

Hatton was confident he would beat Floyd, he was confident he had the gameplan to do it and he gave it a good go for six rounds at which point he got frustrated and his lack of control really let him down.

The refereeing was a shame (unless you are suggesting that the refereeing had ZERO impact on this fight) because it prevented us from finding out if Hatton could continue to make it a fight, and if Floyd could really beat Hatton at his own game without Cortez splitting them up every time Hatton showed the upper hand.

If Floyd won as easily as you are suggesting then would he have really said that Ricky was among the toughest guys he fought? What did he say about Gatti after the fight? The same thing he said before, he's a C+ fighter. If Hatton was as crap as you're suggesting then Floyd must be a real ***** to find him a tough fight.

This is an excellent post. Alot of people are already trying to call this fight a whitewash when it was so not the case. Anybody watching the first six rounds of that fight and studying the pace and fluidity of the fight who tries to claim Floyd was completely dominant is either blind or ******.

[Newyorkknicks07]

This thread will be fun.

lol, you can bet on that one, son.

[Vladimir303]

[QUOTE]

I didn't say that. I had Hatton ahead after the sixth and I was not the only one. Furthermore it wasn't even exclusively fans of Hatton that had him ahead at that juncture. Hatton may well have lost had the fight continued. In fact with the vegas scoring he was absolutely going on to lose.

Vegas scoring or any other scoring, Floyd was ahead in that fight by far......yawn.

Hatton was confident he would beat Floyd, he was confident he had the gameplan to do it and he gave it a good go for six rounds at which point he got frustrated and his lack of control really let him down.

The refereeing was a shame (unless you are suggesting that the refereeing had ZERO impact on this fight) because it prevented us from finding out if Hatton could continue to make it a fight, and if Floyd could really beat Hatton at his own game without Cortez splitting them up every time Hatton showed the upper hand.

The only thing that got prevented by Joe Cortez's referreing was more holding. Joe Cortez kept telling Ricky to work on the inside and he wouldn't do it. Had somebody like Miguel Cotto been that close to Floyd, he would have worked with bodyshots coming up to the head instead of clinching....trust.

If Floyd won as easily as you are suggesting then would he have really said that Ricky was among the toughest guys he fought? What did he say about Gatti after the fight? The same thing he said before, he's a C+ fighter. If Hatton was as crap as you're suggesting then Floyd must be a real ***** to find him a tough fight.

Floyd always gives credit to his fighters after he beats them. I don't remember him dissing Gatti after he beat him. Floyd just tried being nice........it's not a legitimate statement about Hatton being his toughest opponent. He had more trouble with Castillo.

[squealpiggy]

Joe Cortez kept telling Ricky to work on the inside and he wouldn't do it

No he didn't. He separated the fighters the instant Hatton looked like he was about to punch.

Had somebody like Miguel Cotto been that close to Floyd, he would have worked with bodyshots coming up to the head instead of clinching....trust.

OK so you think Cotto is going to be the one to beat Floyd?

Floyd always gives credit to his fighters after he beats them.

Ah so you're saying Floyd is a liar then?

Floyd just tried being nice........it's not a legitimate statement about Hatton being his toughest opponent.

I see, that's definitely saying that he's a liar.

[Benny Leonard]

I find it entertaining that the hatton groupies cling to the clip where Floyd stumbles. If you watch the clip and replays, the punch CLEARLY misses, and their feet got tangled.

But, whatever helps them sleep at night.

Floyd was knocked off balance...I think Emmanuel said the same thing, which is also why Hatton didn't jump on his ass. You can tell by Floyd's behavior that he wasn't hurt and I'm sure since Hatton was up close, he could tell in Floyd's eyes if he was hurt or not...he wasn't at all.

Corley stunned him/hurt Floyd. Crazy thing is, the freak of nature Floyd is, when being stunned is supposed to make you have slow reactions, his reactions just went down a notch, which meant he was only a semi-God, not a God, but still greater than the rest of the mortals. He also fought back and was kicking ass. I remember my friend saying afterwards, "Damn, I like Floyd but I wish he would get hurt more...****ing exciting fighter when he his hurt, boring as **** when he is not." I've always liked his fights up to that point so I disagreed with the last part, but one out of two isn't bad.

[Benny Leonard]

squealpiggy;2970466 says: No he didn't. He separated the fighters the instant Hatton looked like he was about to punch.

He seperated them because Hatton, when on the inside, kept grabbing at Floyd. True, I've seen other fighters do this and get away with it, like Jack Johnson. Maybe it was even legal then, I don't know. However, you cannot hold and hit in today's game. Cortez also jumped in fast as soon as Hatton had Floyd in a headlock. Early on you can see Hatton already hits the back of the head. Cortez was establishing the rules early, although, Floyd got away with some holding and hitting on his own...probably because he was pulling a Hopkins, which is to hold with the opposite side of the ref so he cannot see.

OK so you think Cotto is going to be the one to beat Floyd?

He is saying Cotto will not hold and hit and smother his own punches...he will be free-hand and **** away.

Ah so you're saying Floyd is a liar then?

Floyd likes to be kind after fights...no sense at making more enemies. Also, if Floyd gives a lot of respect to Hatton, it looks good on his part, especially to any fan of Hatton's that could possible watch his future fights.

I see, that's definitely saying that he's a liar.

Floyd also said right after the fight, "One of the toughest opponents" and not "The toughest opponents." If he changed his mind a bit later on when he had regular clothes on, I cannot remember, but still, read my words above.

[El Dominicano]

1. Hatton only won 2 rounds. He was very active and put alot of pressure on PBF! But ask yourself was it affective? NO!
2. How was the ref protecting Floyd when it was clready Floyd winning the Toe to Toe battles. Common Sense people!
3. I don't consider Floyd a liar but I must say...He was lieing when he said Hatton was his toughest opponent.
4. Anyone who thought Hatton was ahead and could have won if not for the K.O is simply a crack head.
5. Chop Chop, JLC, DLH, Zab Judah, Augustus, Chavez did better then Hatton. If u think ineffective aggression wins fights! then u are simply dumb!!
Oh and BTW Hatton tried his best and I can atleast respect that!!

[Benny Leonard]

Watch the Mayweather vs. Chavez clip...see how Chavez is up close and ****ing away at Floyd, but, unlike Hatton, Chavez isn't holding so it leaves the few inches Floyd needs to counter. If Hatton didn't hold so much, this is what would have happened much earlier. Holding saved Hatton.



Oh, and I think this was the fight Billy was watching on 24/7 in his Vegas hotel room. He looked worried.