I was MUCH less impressed than Lamps, Max and the ****

[kayjay]

Can I ask you how a network "loses revenue" in broadcasting a fight?

Please educate me.

HBO does not make money on regular "Championship Boxing" fights. It's hard to relate subscription money to individual programs in the first place. but the money they spend on boxing is only made back by successful PPVs. May 5 certainly put their boxing budget ahead, but that's the product of fifteen years of shelling out millions to those guys

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Quote by Dan Rafael:
And despite Showtime putting on one of its best pay-per-view telecasts, the losses on Holyfield-Toney were substantial. Showtime lost more than $ 2 million on the show. Losses were so heavy that in order to balance its budget, Showtime got Holyfield to agree to a deferred payment in January of about $ 2 million of his $ 5 million purse.

Thomas didn't want to talk about that but offered, "Hypothetically, you can see how a company at the end of its calendar-year budget would want to time payments a bit. Almost anything Showtime would ask of us, if it was in our power, we would do. They've been very good to us over the years, and we would welcome an opportunity to reciprocate."

AGAIN.... PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW A NETWORK "LOSES REVENUE" ON A FIGHT.

[Azteca]

Read above. Showtime lost 2 million.

Just semantics. They lost money DIOS.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

HBO does not make money on regular "Championship Boxing" fights. It's hard to relate subscription money to individual programs in the first place. but the money they spend on boxing is only made back by successful PPVs. May 5 certainly put their boxing budget ahead, but that's the product of fifteen years of shelling out millions to those guys

KJ,

Please read my post # 345. Isn't that exactly what I said?

[kayjay]

KJ,

Please read my post # 345. Isn't that exactly what I said?

Gotcha...............

[Floydmayweather]

Hold up my man, he WOULD NOT destroy Pavlik. No need to argue that. I dont think he would destroy JT either. B-Hop, definitely not. He has all the right tools. He will analyze you, 44 year old champ still has great stamina, and you simply wont hit him much. Lightweight- Light Heavy, still ruled by North America. Can't knock Calzaghe too much cause he still has the 0 on the record, BUT I need some Veteran opponents to lose to him before he gets more credit. Like I said, overhyped Lacy, and Kessler???

He would make Pavlik look silly he will also beat bhop. His workrate is to high for the older Hopkins.

[pesticid]

I'm talking about the networks' biggest fights. Not the individual fighters' biggest fights.

For example: Last night was calzaghe's biggest fight. But where would it rank among DLH/PBF/Tito/PAc?

But you win. I'm an idiot.

Well who ranks with DLH, Tito, Pac, and PBF?

DLH is the best looking fighter with the most charisma, recognized for his gold medal and his countless achievements inside the ring. Tito is Tito, dynamite in both hands, very charismatic. Pacman is a buzzsaw that gives you great attraction each time out. PBF is a prodigy with a nasty persona. A lot of people like to see him lose and he's been fortunate to be in match-ups with fighters who had great following.

DLH is a white hispanic who also have very good looks. He also has an amazing talent. Of course he'll draw the most. Tito, very similar, the latinos in the US are the largest minority group. PBF is in the hip-hop community.

How about Jermain Taylor? He was a p4p before Kelly got his no? How about Hopkins, he's still p4p. Winky, Tarver, nobody wants to see these guys fight. Hopkins was fortunate to fight DLH and Tito. So was Winky. Tarver was fortunate to fight Roy Jones.

My final word, hopefully, is that HBO could have great show on US land but they could still have successful shows abroad, why skip an opportunity. AS many people will buy Calzaghe vs Bhop regardless whether the fight is in US or UK, that is from the US side. But promoters can make more money from the live gate as they usually do.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Read above. Showtime lost 2 million.

Just semantics. They lost money DIOS.

No. It is not "semantics".

You don't "lose revenue". What the article referred to was bottom-line profits or net margin. REVENUE IS TOP LINE.

The fact that you are blending and confusing revenue and profits is insane to me.

There was poor margin flow-through for that fight. Clearly because of the purses. The costs were too high.

WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD.

[Floydmayweather]

Cal needs to whip up on Pavlik or beat Bhop for some of the Americans but Joe is damn good i dont know how anyone cant see that.

[K-Nan]

Who cares?