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    Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!! View Post
    I remember debating with somebody about those shots. I thought they looked like kidney shots to me (I remember Canelo shoved him for doing that).
    They are tangled up. Those were illegal blows, they weren't clean and effective punches. No leverage in those punches., and it could be a kidney shot, But it is only meant to frustrate an opponent, since, they are tangled up, no sane judge will score those illegal shots.
    Last edited by Spoon23; 02-09-2016, 05:55 PM.

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      Originally posted by considerthis View Post
      Lol...you sure spend a lot of time digging up old posts...pretty lame. I've said from day 1 the fight was ****, a ripp off and neither guy performed well...so what's your point?
      Coming here for like you nth time to post you still don't know why you keep defending Floyd?

      As you said the fight was a shyit, but what it also shows the shyitty fight awarded the win to the wrong guy as this thread has exposed. You are a fan of Floyd maybe he's not your ultimate hero, but you are a big fan of his balls, don't deny what you are. You come crawling back in every time your sensitive onion skin sees your idol being grilled lol

      oh, if you love boxing, these recap videos shows how much more this fight was, to a casual fan, this fight is shyitty and boring, but if you know what to look for, this fight has more to give than meets the eye. It was a very technical fight. A high speed chess match. Well, I don't really expect you to fathom it's depths.

      Secondly, I Never dig up your stuff. I just quoted you and marked it as one of my prize possessions in my fl0mo archives best fl0mo fumbles section hehehe

      Thridly, You know why it's an epic read aside from exposing Froid jr?

      Because, I've brought all you Fl0mo ******s to cry in here hahahahaha

      Fourthly, Who won Floyd vs Pacquiao? Live and officially, not in slow motion?
      i would have applauded you highly except that..."not in slow motion?"

      why? what is so wrong with reviewing the fight in slow mo?

      it is not about changing decisions or declaring a no contest....

      it is about really seeing what happened....who hit who more, harder etc etc.... All boils down to the true winner. The Pacman.
      Last edited by Spoon23; 02-09-2016, 09:05 PM.

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        Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
        You don't see your own bias. This is driving me away. Good luck.
        I have to be honest here...The Spoon is no flat earther...I took it upon myself to score the fight up until the tenth and

        a) I am a ****ty fight scorer so that is relevant

        b) There is no way I could give a vast of the rounds to Floyd. Pac was so far ahead that I actually didn't score the eleventh and twelfth cause it wouldn't have mattered and it was a dreadful experience having to watch that game of tag again.

        I don't think the judges see a lot of counters and a lot of slipping.

        I still can accept this going either way but no way should either man be proud of leaving it in the ring here.

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          Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          Coming here for like you nth times to post you still don't know why you keep defending Floyd?

          As you said the fight was a shyit, but what it also shows the shyitty fight awarded the win to the wrong guy as this thread has exposed. You are a fan of Floyd maybe he's not your ultimate hero, but you are a big fan of his balls, don't deny what you are. You come crawling back in every time your sensitive onion skin sees your idol being grilled lol

          oh, if you love boxing, these recap videos shows how much more this fight was, to a casual fan, this fight is shyitty and boring, but if you know what to look for, this fight has more to give than meets the eye. It was a very technical fight. A high speed chess match. Well, I don't really expect you to fathom it's depths.

          Secondly, I Never dig up your stuff. I just quoted you and marked it as one of my prize possessions in my fl0mo archives best fl0mo fumbles section hehehe

          Thridly, You know why it's an epic read aside from exposing Froid jr?

          Because, I've brought all you Fl0mo ******s to cry in here hahahahaha

          Fourthly, Who won Floyd vs Pacquiao? Live and officially, not in slow motion?
          i would have applauded you highly except that..."not in slow motion?"

          why? what is so wrong with reviewing the fight in slow mo?

          it is not about changing decisions or declaring a no contest....

          it is about really seeing what happened....who hit who more, harder etc etc.... All boils down to the true winner. The Pacman.
          You're good at digging up old posts...show me all the posts where i "defend floyd". All I've said is i thought he won and you pact@rds can't seem to accept that. Don't get making fun of you idiots confused with defending floyd...i don't give a **** about the guy, he's a good boxer...i like boxing...it doesn't have to go any further than that. All this die hard f10mo, defending floyd bs is all in your head buddy...just cuz you're completely ***t, doesn't mean everyone else is.

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            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
            I have to be honest here...The Spoon is no flat earther...I took it upon myself to score the fight up until the tenth and

            a) I am a ****ty fight scorer so that is relevant

            b) There is no way I could give a vast of the rounds to Floyd. Pac was so far ahead that I actually didn't score the eleventh and twelfth cause it wouldn't have mattered and it was a dreadful experience having to watch that game of tag again.

            I don't think the judges see a lot of counters and a lot of slipping.

            I still can accept this going either way but no way should either man be proud of leaving it in the ring here.

            I am watching it again, not in slow motion.

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              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
              I have to be honest here...The Spoon is no flat earther...I took it upon myself to score the fight up until the tenth and

              a) I am a ****ty fight scorer so that is relevant

              b) There is no way I could give a vast of the rounds to Floyd. Pac was so far ahead that I actually didn't score the eleventh and twelfth cause it wouldn't have mattered and it was a dreadful experience having to watch that game of tag again.

              I don't think the judges see a lot of counters and a lot of slipping.

              I still can accept this going either way but no way should either man be proud of leaving it in the ring here.
              Exactly...that's what makes the $100 price tag so offensive. These 2 f@ggots had a 12 round sparring session and skated with 100s of millions.

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                Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                I am watching it again, not in slow motion.
                I hope Spoon appreciates that some of us are watching this travesty again... Man it like asking the mrs to swallow...

                Z let me know what you think. I am not a good fight scorer for a lot of reasons, some of them I am proud of....

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                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  I hope Spoon appreciates that some of us are watching this travesty again... Man it like asking the mrs to swallow...

                  Z let me know what you think. I am not a good fight scorer for a lot of reasons, some of them I am proud of....
                  Will do. No problem.

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                    Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                    You're good at digging up old posts...show me all the posts where i "defend floyd". All I've said is i thought he won and you pact@rds can't seem to accept that. Don't get making fun of you idiots confused with defending floyd...i don't give a **** about the guy, he's a good boxer...i like boxing...it doesn't have to go any further than that. All this die hard f10mo, defending floyd bs is all in your head buddy...just cuz you're completely ***t, doesn't mean everyone else is.
                    Sure I believe you, Mr. Onion skin.

                    You're not a Floyd fan. Got it!


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                      Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                      Naah.. No rematch needed. It is obviously a one armed healthy Pac was too much for Floyd. This fight has concluded who's the better man. Video evidence is overwhelming already.

                      A 2 handed healthy Pac is a nightmare scenario for Floyd, especially if a second fight happens without vegas, Bayless, USADA, and IVS on his corner.

                      Pac will mop this dude silly lol

                      But let say it ever happens, both are old.. Since we don't know how long Floyd's been using peds we can only speculate that at the age 40 his body will weaken from all that peds he used to take and his body might finally breakdown on that fight. As for Pac, his torn rotator cuff might tear again due to his bodies battle worn condition, hence, this fight will just be more inconclusive than the first. That is why a 2nd fight is immaterial, but if it happens off course I'll still pay to see it.

                      This fight should have happened in their prime, 6 years ago, and they should have done it 3 times for all the boxing fans to enjoy, but that's water under the bridge already.

                      What we got is this one fight. It wasn't great, but if you learn to appreciate the technicalities of what happened that night you'll learn to appreciate what truly transpired. That in that night of boxing a man who was blood drawn like a vampire ****** him dry (by USADA) Pac came into his dugout expecting a legal shot of Tarodol for his injured shoulder, which he didn't receive, since nsac didn't allow it. Surprisingly Floyd under the radar, went into the fight illegally administered 750ml of illegal IVS in his system.

                      And later on before the fight, Nsac even confiscated Pac's vitamins and Gatorade to the shock of Pac's team. Never before done to him in his whole career. This was Rocky Drago all over again. We're Rocky was against all odds had to fight his way to a Russian biased hometown.

                      As the dust settled and critical videos have surfaced. We later found out the truth of the complex tapestry of manipulation that took place. Compubox was rigged, judges score card was biased to Floyd, nsac was biased to Floyd, USADA kept quiet to Floyd's IV illegality. And a referee who allows hugging to save the hometown boy for ever being in a real fight.

                      All this was against Pac. The crazy thing is with all these odds stack up against Pac. He still powered through and won through all this disadvantages. As video evidences clearly shows he connected the cleaner and effective punches throughout the match to give him a much deserving 8 clear rounds.

                      The truth.

                      # videos don't lie

                      #pac lost to Vegas not Floyd

                      First three rounds: this is the most I am willing to do. Time stamping no. Keeping track of too many things takes me out of the context I feel is fair. Stopping the action after every punch is not how scoring works.

                      Round by round first three. Not viewed in slow motion.

                      Round 1 Mayweather He landed better quality shots a couple of hard ones. One on the chin, the other on the chest.

                      Round 2 Mayweather.
                      In the clinches Mayweather lands body shots while Manny waited for Bayless to break them. Floyd road Manny's neck down. Bayless warned him. In the clinches Floyd it hitting PAC in the body. Manny comes forward but not being very effective overall. He did land one good body/chest shot on Floyd.

                      Round 3 I gave to PAC for being more effective. I though Bayless was to kind to Floyd. He had PAC in a headlock and landed a good body shot. I don't give Floyd credit for that shot and think Bayless didn't warn him properly. Floyd pushes the limits.

                      Note: I can see how The second round can go either way, as could the third. But this is just my opinion.

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