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    Ali certainly belongs in such a top 20. His will to win, toughness were second to none as was his ability to rise to the occasion to win against the toughest opposition determined to win. THEN add to this that jab that sliced opponents to ribbons, unmatched speed, combination punching, footwork, head movement, slipping. Very hard to find a fancy Dan boxer with that high level of toughness. The hardest punchers in boxing history tried to knock him out. All failed. Only one knocked him down.

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      Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
      Ali certainly belongs in such a top 20. His will to win, toughness were second to none as was his ability to rise to the occasion to win against the toughest opposition determined to win. THEN add to this that jab that sliced opponents to ribbons, unmatched speed, combination punching, footwork, head movement, slipping. Very hard to find a fancy Dan boxer with that high level of toughness. The hardest punchers in boxing history tried to knock him out. All failed. Only one knocked him down.
      There are countless fighters more befitting that description.

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        Let me guess... WILDER!

        Rusty is a boxing joke!

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          Let’s have some fun.

          Tell everyone Tony. In your own words. What makes a great fighter?

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            Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
            Let me guess... WILDER!

            Rusty is a boxing joke!

            At least we've seen Wilder:

            stay standing against smaller men.

            face off against a bigger man.

            Knockout his opponents.

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              Watching chinny, undersized Frazier beat the piss out of Ali (at his very best, no less), I have no idea how anyone would put Ali near ANY p4p list.


              Unless of course it's an attention whore.

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                I think the top 15 are locks

                Sugar Ray Robinson
                Harry Greb
                Ezzard Charles
                Henry Armstrong
                Sam Langford
                Muhammad Ali
                Manny Pacquiao
                Roberto Duran
                Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                Archie Moore
                Sugar Ray Leonard
                Joe Louis
                Willie Pep
                Bob Fitzsimmons
                Benny Leonard

                Then you have 10 guys fighting for the last 5 spots
                Tunney, Jones, Walker, Monzon, Hagler, Ross, Canzoneri, Whitaker, Gans and Wilde

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                  Originally posted by asero_831 View Post
                  I think the top 15 are locks

                  Sugar Ray Robinson
                  Harry Greb
                  Ezzard Charles
                  Henry Armstrong
                  Sam Langford
                  Muhammad Ali
                  Manny Pacquiao
                  Roberto Duran
                  Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  Archie Moore
                  Sugar Ray Leonard
                  Joe Louis
                  Willie Pep
                  Bob Fitzsimmons
                  Benny Leonard

                  Then you have 10 guys fighting for the last 5 spots
                  Tunney, Jones, Walker, Monzon, Hagler, Ross, Canzoneri, Whitaker, Gans and Wilde
                  - -A sporting, reasonable list contested only on the order of ranking.

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                    This is about right


                    Originally posted by asero_831 View Post
                    I think the top 15 are locks

                    Sugar Ray Robinson
                    Harry Greb
                    Ezzard Charles
                    Henry Armstrong
                    Sam Langford
                    Muhammad Ali
                    Manny Pacquiao
                    Roberto Duran
                    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                    Archie Moore
                    Sugar Ray Leonard
                    Joe Louis
                    Willie Pep
                    Bob Fitzsimmons
                    Benny Leonard

                    Then you have 10 guys fighting for the last 5 spots
                    Tunney, Jones, Walker, Monzon, Hagler, Ross, Canzoneri, Whitaker, Gans and Wilde

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                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                      This is my top 20 list, which will remain fluid, that way adjustments can be made over time.

                      1- Ray Robinson
                      My favourite fighter ever due to his natural skill.

                      Will be interesting to see how long he remains at number 1 in the greatest pound for pound list?

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