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Bert Cooper just passed away. Would he be champ in this era?

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    #11
    I also heard Harold Lederman just passed away at 79 after a long battle with some form of cancer.

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      #12
      no. And he had to much class to try and pretend picking up a minor belt (ibo, wbf) was legit. RIP BC.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Gee that was an early exit. May he Rest In Peace.

        What happened?


        Cooper was entertaining, but imo he fought the fight of his life against Holyfield. I generally consider him more of a journeyman or gatekeeper at best. I don’t see him as champion of any of the main alphabet org tbh.
        That is what he was. But the heavyweight champs of today would have been journeymen in his era. I think people just forget. Fury, Wilder and Joshua seriously wouldn't have gone anywhere - from a h2h perspective they are journeymen in every other era.

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          #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
          - -Gotta admit the Brit got in his shots and went down swinging.

          As far as today, Bert would be easily dispatched by AJ, however given Deyonce never learned how to box and given Bert's low crouching style with unorthodox delivery of booming punches, he'd have a better than even chance if he mixes body and head for an early stoppage of that thug.
          Carlos Takam was competitive with Joshua. I don't see why a prime Cooper couldn't do the same and possibly more

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            #15
            If he wasn't good enough to be a champion back then he wouldn't be a champion now.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Carlos Takam was competitive with Joshua. I don't see why a prime Cooper couldn't do the same and possibly more
              - -Not a competitive fight as much as Takam exceeded expectations to hang around longer than expected.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                I also heard Harold Lederman just passed away at 79 after a long battle with some form of cancer.
                - -The old fight judge just relocated to Valhalla where he announces his scorecard between rds.

                Happy Days!

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                  #18
                  The Best line of all time after the Holyfield bout .
                  “ No More ESPN Fights.”
                  That was classic Bert.
                  But let’s be Honest Bert was a stepping stone fighter.
                  And I saw Bert live many many times in Atlantic City.
                  Bert was a staple down there being from Pennsylvania.
                  He wouldn’t be champion today guys. Be realistic,
                  He was a light Heavyweight/ cruiser weight.
                  The top HW destroy cooper.
                  I don’t want to speak down on a man that just passed but let’s not lose perspective.
                  Gate keeper stepping stone
                  There is nothing wrong with being that as a fighter.
                  Every era needs guys like Cooper/ Jesse Ferguson/ Buster Mathis sr / Randy Neuman. There is no shame in being a top 20 fighter for god sakes.
                  Rest In Peace Bert.

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                    #19
                    Nice piece on cooper here:

                    //krikya360.com/bert-coo...n-hero--138966

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                      #20
                      - -Is it too masochistic to think of what a prime Coop would do to Ali's neon Leon?

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