Who had the most stamina?

[The plunger man]

There were two knock downs yes, but Queenie was making a point about the 15 round stoppage being based on one knock down (and not a very dramatic one at that.) -- The question at hand wasn't how many knock downs occurred during the fight but whether or not Benitez should have been allowed to continue after one KD in the 15th.

IMO The third round knock down was a flash KD with Benitez unhurt by the blow (possibly a jab). The 15th round KD hurt Benitez more but he could have continued. He was up by a count of two and ready to fight by eight. He was throwing back when the fight was stopped; the fight was stopped too quickly.

I am with Queenie on this one, they wanted to make Leonard a star!

Leonard would have been a star whether this fight was stopped at the end or if it went to points....Leonard not stopping Benitez would not have been a shock seeing that he took hearns the distance and beat Duran on points.
Leonard became a star because he was the best in the division and the shining light after Ali that’s the bottom line.
As I said it was a fairly close fight but generally the consensus was Leonard was ahead by 4 points.
Benitez was one of greatest defensive fighters in the history of boxing so not stopping him would not have harmed Leonard’s resume.
As I said I’ll go with Jim Jacobs who was Benitez manager who said he was fine with the stoppage and didn’t want to see Benitez hurt and Benitez never complained and congratulated Leonard....but I guess you posters have the inside knowledge lol

[Willie Pep 229]

Leonard would have been a star whether this fight was stopped at the end or if it went to points....Leonard not stopping Benitez would not have been a shock seeing that he took hearns the distance and beat Duran on points.
Leonard became a star because he was the best in the division and the shining light after Ali that’s the bottom line.
As I said it was a fairly close fight but generally the consensus was Leonard was ahead by 4 points.
Benitez was one of greatest defensive fighters in the history of boxing so not stopping him would not have harmed Leonard’s resume.
As I said I’ll go with Jim Jacobs who was Benitez manager who said he was fine with the stoppage and didn’t want to see Benitez hurt and Benitez never complained and congratulated Leonard....but I guess you posters have the inside knowledge lol

I never said Leonard wouldn't be a star, I said they wanted him to be a star.

I never said that his people didn't want the fight stopped, I said I thought it was stopped too early.

You know, all that mis-reading by you is OK, but then we get to the last unnecessary line with the insult and I realize why Queenie speaks to me with respect, and you with disdain.

[The plunger man]

I never said Leonard wouldn't be a star, I said they wanted him to be a star.

I never said that his people didn't want the fight stopped, I said I thought it was stopped too early.

You know, all that mis-reading by you is OK, but then we get to the last unnecessary line with the insult and I realize why Queenie speaks to me with respect, and you with disdain.

excuse me lol....your passing on your opinion that’s it and if I don’t agree with it do I then say yeah your right.....if your saying they wanted leonard to be a star that’s your opinion and I say he proved them right Because he was a star...intellectual people wanted Einstein to a be a genius and guess what he was one.
As for stopping it to early again that’s your opinion and I say I go with what the fighters and managers say about it not some poster who don’t have inside knowledge

[Verus]

Two come to mind. Henry Armstrong and Salvador Sanchez although Sanchez died much too young to know if his phenomenal stamina would hold up in his later years.

[QueensburyRules]

Two come to mind. Henry Armstrong and Salvador Sanchez although Sanchez died much too young to know if his phenomenal stamina would hold up in his later years.

- -Sal owned a better career record at age 23 than Rays final career record before Ray had ever won a title, we can only speculate.

He was in training for Arguello when he crashed his life, and that's another tough fight for him.

He was studying to be a medical doc, so I'd say he only has a couple more fights before pursuing his studies full time.

Sal much more than just a fighter or doctor, he was a rare higher order being of which precious few have existed in any era.

[Verus]

- -Sal owned a better career record at age 23 than Rays final career record before Ray had ever won a title, we can only speculate.

He was in training for Arguello when he crashed his life, and that's another tough fight for him.

He was studying to be a medical doc, so I'd say he only has a couple more fights before pursuing his studies full time.

Sal much more than just a fighter or doctor, he was a rare higher order being of which precious few have existed in any era.

Sanchez was definitely special. One of the best I have seen. We will never know, but I think that he would have beaten Arguello who had trouble with guys with a high work rate. He was about even with Mancini before the knockout because of Mancini's high work rate. Then there are the 2 fights with Pryor. Though Sanchez's work rate was not higher than either Mancini or Pryor, he definitely kept busy. Plus he had a word-class chin, great defense and could box as good as anyone.

[QueensburyRules]

excuse me lol....your passing on your opinion that’s it and if I don’t agree with it do I then say yeah your right.....if your saying they wanted leonard to be a star that’s your opinion and I say he proved them right Because he was a star...intellectual people wanted Einstein to a be a genius and guess what he was one.
As for stopping it to early again that’s your opinion and I say I go with what the fighters and managers say about it not some poster who don’t have inside knowledge

- -Einstein was a C+ student.

It was when he took a position as a clerk that his gears engaged.

Far be it for Americans to teach an Englishman how to read and write, but 'twas necessary.

[Willie Pep 229]

- -Einstein was a C+ student.

It was when he took a position as a clerk that his gears engaged.

Far be it for Americans to teach an Englishman how to read and write, but 'twas necessary.

The grades part was true but his gears didn't need to mesh he was far beyond those around him at a very young age

From:

At the age of twelve, he followed his own line of reasoning to find a proof of the Pythagorean Theorem. At thirteen he read Kant, just for the fun of it. And before he was fifteen he had taught himself differential and integral calculus.

But while the young Einstein was engrossed in intellectual pursuits, he didn't much care for school. He hated rote learning and despised authoritarian schoolmasters. His sense of intellectual superiority was resented by his teachers.

[QueensburyRules]

The grades part was true but his gears didn't need to mesh he was far beyond those around him at a very young age

From:

At the age of twelve, he followed his own line of reasoning to find a proof of the Pythagorean Theorem. At thirteen he read Kant, just for the fun of it. And before he was fifteen he had taught himself differential and integral calculus.

But while the young Einstein was engrossed in intellectual pursuits, he didn't much care for school. He hated rote learning and despised authoritarian schoolmasters. His sense of intellectual superiority was resented by his teachers.

- -What do you know about the claim his wife co-created the relativity concept?

BTW, got two lengthy bios on another genii, Douglas MacArthur wh alternately awed and infuriated his superiors. Both he and his father awarded Medal of Honors, achieved top general rank though Macs ultimate rank was as the Grand Poohbah of all the Pacific Islands and Asia, a kingdom dwarfing that of even the Kublai Khan.

Both he and pop relieved from duties for insubordination when their intelligence became humiliatingly insufferable for their superiors, ie Truman, a high school grad of common peasant stock.

Anyway, it's 1890 or so and Kid Macs learning to play poker from granddad, a Scottish immigrant and retired Federal Judge.

Mac has something akin to a full house and throws in all his chips before the ol guy *****s him with a higher hand.

Crestfallen, his granddad soothes him with a everything in life is relative to the moment and to move on.

That struck me as a high use of a "relatively" obscure word concept more commonly associated with family genealogy for turn of the 19th century.

Love to know what became of his heirs .

[The plunger man]

- -Einstein was a C+ student.

It was when he took a position as a clerk that his gears engaged.

Far be it for Americans to teach an Englishman how to read and write, but 'twas necessary.

That has nothing to do with being a genius how good your grades are.
Many autistic people have the genius gene and can solve problems that the likes of me and you could not even comprehend.
Leonardo da Vinci was also genius level but didn’t even have academic training but he is considered a genius.
As for me being a genius in English grammar forget about that , but I’m a good speller , my geography is top notch , I can build you a house from scratch , I’m a brilliant DJ who has played in many good clubs , I can speak Portuguese , I boxed for 10 years and got to a
Very good level and I’ve travelled all over the world , and will challenge anybody on boxing knowledge from 1980 up to present day.
But writing forget it lol