Which boxer do you add a win to?

[joeandthebums]

It has a historical edge to the question, considering possible legacy altering impact.

Which boxer would you give a fictional win to if you had only one choice.

Despite being a fictional win I mean that the contest had to have been based in reality and have a realistic chance of happening. So boxers had to been active at same time, relative weights etc.

[M Bison]

It has a historical edge to the question, considering possible legacy altering impact.

Which boxer would you give a fictional win to if you had only one choice.

Despite being a fictional win I mean that the contest had to have been based in reality and have a realistic chance of happening. So boxers had to been active at same time, relative weights etc.

Jimmy Young UD over Muhammad Ali.

[joeandthebums]

Jimmy Young UD over Muhammad Ali.

Young beating Ali in '76 instead of losing?

I can see how it boosts Young reputation and some shine off Ali.

How do you envision the difference? Young would of had a return bout with Ali, if he got through that then he could of been champion for a couple of years - until he meets Norton/Holmes.

Not a choice was expecting, but I like it if you wanted Young to get one or two years as champion.

With the original question I was actually implying contests that never occurred, not reversal of outcomes.

[M Bison]

Young beating Ali in '76 instead of losing?

I can see how it boosts Young reputation and some shine off Ali.

How do you envision the difference? Young would of had a return bout with Ali, if he got through that then he could of been champion for a couple of years - until he meets Norton/Holmes.

Not a choice was expecting, but I like it if you wanted Young to get one or two years as champion.

With the original question I was actually implying contests that never occurred, not reversal of outcomes.

Oh okay, I shall name one then but for the time being I'll take my opinion on how that fight would have took a possible better effect for Jimmy Young.

First off it'd have gave him a lot more credentials, where when I seen him fighting with Ali he looked like a very capable guy who was giving Ali all the trouble in the world.

It's hard to say If beating Ali would have overall make him into a world beater and avoid the 20+ losses he had throughout his career but I think he'd have been looked as perhaps more than just a tricky journeyman.


What about If this fight had ever happened -
Sonny Liston Vs Joe Frazier
I think big George gets a tonne of credit by the historians for that win and I could see Sonny Liston possibly stopping Joe Frazier thus in turn seeing Sonny definitely being on the top ten of most peoples ratings for the top ten heavyweights of all time.

Then on the other foot If Joe did beat someone like him I think there'd be little room for people to flat out say Joe Frazier would lose against all the big men who could punch hard.

[joeandthebums]

Oh okay, I shall name one then but for the time being I'll take my opinion on how that fight would have took a possible better effect for Jimmy Young.

First off it'd have gave him a lot more credentials, where when I seen him fighting with Ali he looked like a very capable guy who was giving Ali all the trouble in the world.

It's hard to say If beating Ali would have overall make him into a world beater and avoid the 20+ losses he had throughout his career but I think he'd have been looked as perhaps more than just a tricky journeyman.

Like the pick.

What about If this fight had ever happened -
Sonny Liston Vs Joe Frazier
I think big George gets a tonne of credit by the historians for that win and I could see Sonny Liston possibly stopping Joe Frazier thus in turn seeing Sonny definitely being on the top ten of most peoples ratings for the top ten heavyweights of all time.

Then on the other foot If Joe did beat someone like him I think there'd be little room for people to flat out say Joe Frazier would lose against all the big men who could punch hard.

What year would this of happened? I know that in '68 Liston got quoted saying he was happy to get in the ring with Frazier.

Liston had climbed back up to 4th place in the rankings by March of '69, Frazier 1st behind Ali, so Liston-Frazier instead of Frazier-Zyglewicz is worth a swap.

Like the reasoning and actually would of enjoyed watching that one, regardless of Liston's age by that point he was relevant to the scene. Good choice.

[BKM-2010]

Lennox Lewis over Rid**** Bowe. It was a crucial fight historically and if Lewis had a stoppage win over a prime Bowe, it would have been huge for his legacy and I think everybody would rate lewis as a certified top 3 ATG HW.

[Bundana]

Harry Wills was Dempsey's outstanding challenger during Jack's entire 7-year reign - but was, shamelessly, denied a title shot. If they had met in the early 20s, and Wills had won, that would certainly have had huge historical impact!

[slipcatchroll]

Lewis over Klitchko 2 would've also been a match that would've added to his legacy given the controversy of the 1st one.

[creekrat77]

Lennox Lewis over Rid**** Bowe. It was a crucial fight historically and if Lewis had a stoppage win over a prime Bowe, it would have been huge for his legacy and I think everybody would rate lewis as a certified top 3 ATG HW.

He knocked him out in the amateurs I'm pretty sure. Bowe never wanted to fight Lennox

[joeandthebums]

Lennox Lewis over Rid**** Bowe. It was a crucial fight historically and if Lewis had a stoppage win over a prime Bowe, it would have been huge for his legacy and I think everybody would rate lewis as a certified top 3 ATG HW.

I was going to use that contest as the example due to it usually being cited.

It would arguable be Lewis' greatest single victory, so no argument there.

Harry Wills was Dempsey's outstanding challenger during Jack's entire 7-year reign - but was, shamelessly, denied a title shot. If they had met in the early 20s, and Wills had won, that would certainly have had huge historical impact!

Wills-Willard instead of Willard-Dempsey in 1919, or Wills meeting Willard earlier would of truly of had an historical impact.

We need to remove the colour line, but if Wills had gotten his chance earlier then it's possible that it would of opened up the door for Langford, Jeannette and McVea to have their title chance.

Read an article once by Jack Johnson where he stated his belief that Dempsey ran away from Wills, a man whose style he could handle, towards Tunney, a man whose style he couldn't handle.